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You might sideload an Android app, or manually install its APK package, if you're using a custom version of Android that doesn't include Google's Play Store. Alternately, the app might be experimental, under development, or perhaps no longer maintained and offered by its developer. Until now, the existence of sideload-ready APKs on the web was something that seemed to be tolerated, if warned against, by Google.

This quiet standstill is being shaken up by a new feature in Google's Play Integrity API. As reported by Android Authority, developer tools to push "remediation" dialogs during sideloading debuted at Google's I/O conference in May, have begun showing up on users' phones. Sideloaders of apps from the British shop Tesco, fandom app BeyBlade X, and ChatGPT have reported "Get this app from Play" prompts, which cannot be worked around. An Android gaming handheld user encountered a similarly worded prompt from Diablo Immortal on their device three months ago.

Google's Play Integrity API is how apps have previously blocked access when loaded onto phones that are in some way modified from a stock OS with all Google Play integrations intact. Recently, a popular two-factor authentication app blocked access on rooted phones, including the security-minded GrapheneOS. Apps can call the Play Integrity API and get back an "integrity verdict," relaying if the phone has a "trustworthy" software environment, has Google Play Protect enabled, and passes other software checks.

Graphene has questioned the veracity of Google's Integrity API and SafetyNet Attestation systems, recommending instead standard Android hardware attestation. Rahman notes that apps do not have to take an all-or-nothing approach to integrity checking. Rather than block installation entirely, apps could call on the API only during sensitive actions, issuing a warning there. But not having a Play Store connection can also deprive developers of metrics, allow for installation on incompatible devices (and resulting bad reviews), and, of course, open the door to paid app piracy.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Google and Apple have come out against legislation that would broaden sideloading rights for smartphone owners, citing security and reliability concerns.

Fuck off google.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

...as I upvote you from my Pixel. ☹️ I give the sad face because Google isn't who they once were and I'm just going to have to deal with that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Never ask a company to pick between the right thing and profit. It was all a matter of time till Google needed to stop growing and start producing profit for investors.

To make it worse the Pixel 9 starts at $800 just like iPhone. So if you're buying Android you don't really save money over an iPhone like you used to.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Never ask a company to pick between the right thing and profit.

It's fundamentally impossible for a publicly traded company not to choose profit over 'The Right Thing', fullstop. Shareholders feel that have a fundamental right to growth, and if Google's CEO were to choose 'The Right Thing' over profit, the shareholders can oust them in favor of a CEO willing to choose profits.

Enshittification is where every public company ends up, because the line MUST go up, no other alternative is acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Google and apple you can let us worry about our security ourselves, thank you, though I'm sure you have our best interests in mind and only that

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The EU is going to be furious about this

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

I hope so. I don't want Android to become the new Apple

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nah, I doubt it. The app developers are freely adding this themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The EU should limit Google giving developers this ability is what they mean

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I also dislike DRM but I don't think it makes any sense to make it illegal.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Haha, gross: We can't control the devices we own.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I genuinely don't even know where to buy an affordable device that is free from this kind of control. Some company always has outsized control (and in some cases arguably surveillance) over anything you can find on the market. It sucks so bad.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They’re still pissed that people won’t put up with their shitty YouTube app and use Revanced instead, eh?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (5 children)

That's not on Google Play so it doesn't affect it. I honestly don't know what the point of this is.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The whole point of #Android is the ability to control your device without #Apple, or #Google, or anyone else dictating your apps and content.

@lemmee_in @android

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The only reason I'm still sticking with Android is the ability to sideload

I have no reason to use an android if this is the road Google wants to follow and expect my next phone to be an iPhone SE

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I'm in this boat. I really liked using Android and tinkering with it. If I do so now I cannot even use my banking app without doing aftercare each update

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The only caveat is you Gotta pay yearly $99 for dev account or be limited to 3 apps.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Good that most apps I use now are open source but for those few that I still get from Aurora Store it might be a death sentence but perhaps this API could be spoofed?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I hate having to be on the side of "Defending" google... but this is the app makers fault, They are the ones using whats provided and installing the artificial limitations.

Google just provided the capability to do it. The app makers are executing it.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Yeah, it happens to Spotify mods as well. This isn't good

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

I use apps that aren't available in my region for language study, so this could end up being a real problem for me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Custom ROM or just go back to a flip phone.

It's only going to get worse with the big players from this point on.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

OK I'm not going crazy then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I'm pretty new to this sort of stuff. I was planning to buy Google Pixel 8 sometime in November when they usually have sales. And install GrapheneOS. I never used this type of stuff before.

So will I have some trouble installing some stuff like some of mobile games, banking app, emails, etc? I'm in Canada if this help.

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