There's a part of me hoping dudes going along with it to aid in the others escape, solidarity style, and he's got some iron clad alibi his lawyer plans to deliver in the courtroom that means they can't convict him.
I want this timeline so damn bad
In which timeline are you? Harambe alive or Harambe dead?
I never put my dick away for Harambe. Does not matter what HR has to say about it.
Plot twist: this was a group act all along. The murderer flees the scene. Once the image gets released, a second actor shows up at a McDonald's, a public space. Gets reported to authorities by a third actor, who does actually work at McD's. They waste the authorities' time, and the second actor, having commited no crimes, proves his innocence. The actual murderer, in the meantime, disappears for real, benefiting of the time wasted by the authorities. Second actor represents something, and gets some cool pics getting "arrested"
Idk, the idea just came to mind seeing the comment above
the second actor, having commited no crimes, proves his innocence.
Here's the flaw in your plan: This doesn't actually work in the US.
if luigi hypothetically did participate in this plan, wouldn’t that itself be a crime (accessory to murder)? so they could still get him for something if they found out about the plan, but probably for less than if he did actually kill someone. i’m not a lawyer though so i don’t really know how this stuff works or if it would even be feasible to prosecute him for any of those things (if he did them)
Yeah I think they could still charge anyone who was in on the plan with conspiracy to commit murder whether they pulled the trigger or not.
Edit: at minimum
Luigi is player 2.
As if they would care. There will be no justice here.
Don't get me wrong. After all of this high drama, it would be extremely funny if Luigi Mangione can prove he was in Rochester on the day of the shooting.
I think that's exactly where it's going. Get convicted, real killer confesses and the state can't pursue a crime they've convicted someone for.
Why not? The double jeopardy clause is about prosecuting a single person twice; it says nothing about prosecuting a second person for the same crime. Heck, convicting a second person wouldn't even automatically invalidate the first conviction. (SCOTUS has ruled that innocence is not a sufficient reason to overturn a conviction.)
Remember, we have a judicial system. Calling it a "justice system" is inaccurate.
innocence is not a sufficient reason to overturn a conviction
WHAT
It really is an absolutely bizaare story. Why would he walk around with the murder weapon like that?
I don’t trust the police so I don’t assume the items they claim that they got off of Luigi are legit. We’ll see what his lawyer says in court. We also don’t know if the gun that they say he had was the murder weapon. Have they done ballistics analysis or anything yet?
I think he wanted to be caught and make a statement. "Those parasites had it coming"
Probably a majority of ppl on social media who don't like wealth inequality, have said that in some form.
He was apparently in possession of the backpack they earlier recovered so....
The one with the monopoly money? How do they know that it was his backpack? I heard them talking about the backpack and monopoly money non stop but I have heard nothing about how they are so sure that it’s related to the case. NYC is huge and there’s a lot of people who lose backpacks all the time and there’s a lot of folks who would want to troll and stir up shit.
See, I think one of three scenarios might have happened:
As a writer, one of the aggravating tropes we have to follow is, "make the story believable," when reality sometimes doesn't align with "a good story." Some criminals are really that stupid, and some armchair theory, based on decades of movies, books, and TV shows, you expect "hey, this is what they SHOULD have done is." And they didn't. It's like when a chessmaster has to watch complete amateurs play chess. "Obvious strategies" are ignored, and basically both players are just not thinking past their last move.
The thing is, whoever did it was pretty smart about much of the crime, which is why the story of how Luigi was caught and what they say he had on is person seems so odd relative to the behavior the previous week.
If it was Luigi, he was pretty disciplined and smart before, during and immediately after the crime with the only leak being showing his face at the hostel (which he may have been required to do when he gave them ID).
If he did do it and really had all that evidence on him, maybe he wanted to get caught? It seems crazy that anyone would hang onto a 3d printed gun when it would be pretty easy to destroy and dispose of it in multiple pieces and locations.
I’ve said it before but I truly believe that Luigi would still be free if he had plucked his eyebrows, regardless of whether he did it.
Edit to add, maybe he thought he’d get shot or captured at the scene and didn’t think too far beyond the immediate getaway? And with the stress of his picture up all over the news and social media, he kinda wasn’t thinking straight?
To be precise, we have no idea what evidence was collected or what it shows. All we know is what the cops said they found, and cops are notorious liars. Just ask Young Thug or Karen Read.
We can assume some of what the cops say is true, but the challenge is that we have no idea which parts.
A slight variation on your second scenario is parallel construction.
I don't know if Luigi's the shooter or not, but if he did it, there's a decent chance whatever is presented as evidence has absolutely nothing to do with how they actually caught the guy.
Luigi did it, and he really was that stupid.
Given that he was valedictorian at his school, I find that unlikely to be the option.
I think you're missing a 4th option:
And there are almost certainly more nuanced options out there.
It looks like you couldn't decide on "bizarre" or "bazaar" so you split the difference. Bazaar is a market place, bizarre is weird. Just fyi, not trying to be a dick about it happy holidays love you
Next time they pick a patsy for a guy with distinctive eyebrows they should find a guy with the same eyebrows.
Seriously a manifesto that starts off by praising the feds is about as suspicious as a cop going "Yeah, the suspect died in my custody, but before you think about giving me suspending me from the force with pay. He wrote this confession letter in his own blood confirming he killed himself and three whole paragraphs affirming that my massive cock is indeed large and super not-small."
The "manifesto" isn't a manifesto at all. Its basically just a written confession. And reads like a forced one at that. To me, the theory that they used illegal means to catch him and are just planting evidence so they have a case makes way more sense. They probably lost him and had to tap into some NSA data to ID him. He probably wasn't a fucking moron and ditched the gun with the bag central park.
This is actually the beginning of the plot to Sonic Adventure 2. We should be seeing Luigi snowboarding down the streets of San Francisco any day now.
Don't chew your food with your mouth open, holy shit Michael where are your manners
It's bothered me literally every time I've seen this.
When your teeth are too perfect to hide.
Imagine what happens if someone with a charming smile and strong eyebrow game shoots another health care CEO.
God willing
Whoever killed Brian Thompson really did announce a safari on these parasites
I really hope that Luigi does get acquitted. I mean if it is factual that he didn't do it and the real killer is out there... well then, I guess Luigi still got lots of fame, but at the same time we will also be happy that the real guy is not only free, but the mystery of who he is will make him cooler.
Maybe it's a staged event. The latest consensus-splitter / distraction.
Look how it has split us. Reddit deleting posts. Unironic discussion of guillotines.
This event has brought a lot more class consciousness to the masses than anything else imo.
The Claims Adjuster Abides.
Am I missing something or is this still just people being stupid about photos?
It's not really the photos. For me, it's that it's really unusual for him to have had all the evidence on hand. Like the ID, gun, silencer, notes, and a motive on hand, just chilling in McDonalds. He also gave away probable cause to search him by presenting the ID which he should have known was fake. Considering he took concealing steps like using a ghost gun, ditching his backpack, and making a relatively clean getaway, it's pretty odd.
Still it's obviously possible that he wanted to be caught or was exhausted... or just dumb enough to not think of that.
It IS a big thing that the evidence hasn't been presented officially yet. There's a lot of media talk implying that he's the guy but trial by media is not a verdict
Succinct analysis plus the desire of the state to pin this to anyone really to please the parasite class.
Honestly just any manifesto that starts off by praising the feds is laughable.
I think that the gun and everything else were dumped and found and the cops are saying he had them on him when he didn't. I think they know it's him, but they didn't use legal means to identify him (parallel construction). They might have used some kind of new way of tracking people that they don't want to reveal to the public.