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Hey everyone, I was entertaining the thought of going away from owning a smart phone.

I already have a modded ipod classic that I use as my main music player.

I also know how to use a paper map.

I also have the Microsoft authentication app for work (I could just use my phone on wifi mode for this)

The last issue I have is WhatsApp where I communicate with friends and family around the world.

Is there a way to use WhatsApp on a non-smart phone? Or should I just buy a pixel and install a secure rom?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Godspeed!

You didn't specify your reasoning for getting away from smartphones. Cost or to escape the trappings? Other? I was thinking you could hang on to your smartphone and just delete the nonessential stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Everyone has an email address. Just saying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Check out the Light Phone. It only has a handful of functions. Talk, text, directions, music, notes, and a camera.

thelightphone.com

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

You could always ask for their address and use mail.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I think with 2fa, qr codes, talking with family, and emergency services it's not reasonable to not have a phone. Instead of purchasing a device why not just turn it off and put it away when you're not using it?

Your maps and ipod have already showed you these are just tools. Continue down that route.

BTW, this post is so close to my own recent questions I thought I had posted it, lol. Share your modded ipod over at c/ipod , trying to start a little community

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Addiction is a tough thing... Hard just to out it down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

And price.

When I go just walk my dog, I almost never take the smartphone with me. I always did that. Later I just bought a cheap dumb phone for 10 bucks, just in case. I always have that on me now.

So yeah, trying to not break something more expensive. Plus it's far more reliable than any smartphone. It just works, no stuttering, no crashes, buttons rather than touchscreen, the alarm app doesn't get ~~killed~~ optimized... Though it has the same problem as every single modern phone I get: the minimum headphone jack volume is way too loud. I wanted to use it for music, but that's a no-go. There's no equalizer to tune it down.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

Almost all of these things can be done from a computer, siting in comfort at home. And some of them, i.e. communication, are even more pleasant that way. The supposed convenience of the mobile form factor is mainly a function of habit. I speak from experience, having mostly kicked that habit.

The "emergency" argument is particularly tiring BS IMO. Somehow we managed for all of history until basically yesterday without this functionality and got by just fine.

The fact that technology exists is not in itself a reason to adopt it. If only we would learn this lesson at last. Rant over.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

There are kaios phones, which are basically very weak smartphones (like 512 mb of ram weak) that run kaios, which is android. They perform poorly enough that you wouldn't want to use for social media, and you can run whatsapp on them

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Correction: KaiOS is a Linux distro that only runs web apps. It descends from the botched Firefox OS project and uses Firefox's browser engine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

You're probably right, I've only used old nokias with symbian, so I wouldn't know.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

KaiOS is more like "Firefox OS" than Android, but otherwise, yes.

I did a 30 day dumbphone challenge a few months ago. Was originally going to use a Nokia with KaiOS but wanted to be able to re-purpose it afterward so I went with an Android-powered flip phone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Android-powered flip phone

That doesn't quite sound as a dumbphone to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I disabled pretty much everything and dumbed it down for the 30 days to nothing more than what a modern "dumb" phone would do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What is it about a smart phone that you don't want/like?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like these devices are too annoying. For example, I dissabled notifications for almost all apps, but a couple of updates later, and the notifications are back (even though the setting is still dissabled), and I feel like when these apps are developed, they want to bundle critical notifications with non-critial ones (ie. Do you want a notification when someone breaks into your house AND when our sales team wants to upsell you something? Or neither?). Then there's the data privacy aspect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

A minimalistic custom rom might fix some of those issues for you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Matrix has a WhatsApp bridge and an SMS bridge. Perhaps it's possible to combine these for a WhatsApp <> SMS bridge? I don't know if these bridges can work in this way. I'm just aware of their existence. Even if it does work, I imagine it'd be pretty suboptimal. But it's potentially an option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

I use a fire tablet for maps. osmand allows you to download whole states at detail and it does not take huge amounts of space. its not great for privacy but I use google voice. That being said I have a smartphone I had to get for work. I picked up the free talk and text thing. I basically keep it shut down until I need it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Ive seen this phone before, but the reviews show that the WhatsApp is no longer found on the phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Still using a laptop? Isn’t there a WhatsApp download for a desktop app?

Edit - although you would still need some sort of smartish phone to set that up I am sure.

Haven’t checked the same might be true for the Authenticator app. If you are just dealing with one time number codes there are Firefox plug ins you can use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I use WhatsApp on my computer, in a web browser, but you do have to activate it from your phone via a q code.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Isn’t there a WhatsApp download for a desktop app?

all I know about it is the following:

While the messaging platform already offers cross-platform support, users were able to add a new contact only via the primary Android phone or iOS handset—by adding a phone number or scanning a QR code. ... In a press release, WhatsApp notes that users will soon be able to add and manage contacts through WhatsApp Web and also through Windows platforms or their preferred device, like Android tablets.

https://www.androidcentral.com/apps-software/whatsapp-likely-to-have-userames-soon

unclear if/how soon you'll be able to use it without a phone number at all.