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Wow, Boeing keeps finding new and interesting ways to be incompetent. They seriously need their entire C-suite replaced with engineering types.
Sorry, I just bought several Boeing stocks at the time they didn't kill anyone yet, and now they have to do all that stuff to not let me out with a profit
The saddest thing about that is they mostly are.
Business majors are the office grunts and middle managers of corporatism. Capital interests are more than aware that business degrees are basically adult daycares, and prefer engineering or law degrees for C-levels in industry.
I saw an interview with Jack Ma (I think) where he said his job isnβt to be the smartest at the job. His job is to find the smart people and make sure they work together. I think that may be whatβs happening here. Leadership is incapable of holding the engineers accountable and making sure they follow all safety protocols. Whether that is incompetence or malice Iβm sure weβll never know for sure.
For Boeing it is absolutely known to be malice. They don't "fail" to hold the engineers accountable. They push out the engineers that want to follow safety protocols and it is well documented.
Jack Welch is up there with the guy who invented leaded gasoline and the chemicals that put holes in the ozone.
I'm honestly happy to see that it just had a fuel malfunction instead of the implication of an outside cause...
That was a previous satellite. This one appears to still be unknown if I'm not mistaken.
Makes me wonder if we have some Kessler Syndrome on our hands... πππ
Probably not. Anyway.
Yeah, blowing up satellites and cutting undersea internet cables would be (a short) prelude to world war III.
I think it would take a lot longer than you expect with those shenanigans, but its still not good yeah.
Nah it was both
aliens
That's actually quite impressive because most satellites just don't do anything when they die. Boeing's vehicles die with flare, and depressing regularity
That's only because they're designed with passivation to vent tanks and disconnect batteries to remove sources of explosion when they start to die. If that fails the tanks eventually pop from thermal cycling or the solar panels overcharge the battery until it blows up like a Russian satellite did earlier this year.
"in space no one can hear you scream"
Boeing satellites: "AHHHHHH!!!"
What, was it blowing a whistle?
Wouldn't it be a bit more concerning if it exploded into smaller, yet complete satellites..? Exploding "into pieces" seems downright SOP to me.
Great, more bits of dangerous junk in orbit. The fuckers should have to clear up their mess before it fucks up other satellites.
This is actually a real problem more so in this case than most. There's an awful lot of satellites in low Earth orbit, altitude of a few hundred to several hundred kilometers. Atmospheric drag still exists here a little bit, and thus space junk will reenter and burn up in years or decades.
This satellite was in geostationary orbit, at an altitude of about 36,000 km. Debris up there can take hundreds of years to come down. Geostationary is a special altitude where the satellite orbits at exactly the same rate as the Earth spins. That means that a fixed dish on Earth will always point at the satellite without needing to move or track. So there's just one narrow orbital ring around the equator for that. That ring is not a place we want space junk to be, because if it gets too hazardous for satellites in GEO that basically removes our capability as a species to use fixed satellite dishes for anything. And that problem won't go away for centuries.
How did it break up? I wasn't aware that Boeing was determined to be a fault in the build process.
Yeah fair point. Boeing has a degraded reputation these days but at the mo we don't know why it broke up. Probably never will. I'm kinda going on Occam's razor here.
The door plug again?
This is slightly concerning. Satellites don't tend to explode on their own, but it is a Boeing design with a history of leaky propulsion, so who knows?
Sure it was a Comm satellite for the world's tensest area, which is about to go to bigger war.
who would have ASAT capability at GEO?
how could it be launched to GEO undetected?
If youβre a government, you can pretty much put anything in a rocket fairing and call it a reconnaissance satellite.
The only warning that actually has to be given is that a rocket is being launched, so you donβt accidentally trigger WW3 by setting off launch detection satellites without warning. After itβs in space, no one can really tell what was in the fairing. Could be a spy satellite, could be navigation. Could just be a box with a bunch of little rockets in it, designed to slam into whatever you want at ridiculous speed.
But itβs way more likely that this was just Boeing having a tiny leak in a propellant tank, or a bad thruster and as soon as the concentration of propellant and oxidizer got high enough, it triggered a detonation. They certainly have a history of not leak testing their shit: airplanes falling apart, space capsules with leaky thrusters, and now a blown up satellite point more towards incompetence than malice.
Is this a trick question? Cause you might as well be asking a 1600s peasant how to develop film.
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Surprised Pikachu face...
IS-33e was the second satellite to be launched as part of Boeing's "next generation" EpicNG platform. The first, dubbed IS-29e, failed due to a propulsion system fuel leak.
I see a pattern.
Hmm, sounds like Boeing needs to fire more engineers.
And increase C-level compensation, of course.
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Boeing: outsources to an outsourcer who outsources to an outsourcer who outsources to an outsourcer who outsources to an outsourcer and so on and still has the shamelessness of appearing surprised at the shit quality and reliability they deliver
Sounds like that case of the sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-contracted killing in China that one time
Hitman walk into a bar
Satellite: "But I wasn't boing anything wrong!"
Rapid unscheduled disassembly.
Plus βInto piecesβ is rather unnecessary there.
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I'm not really into the stock market, but I would not buy Boeing at the moment.
I dunno, I think they could still surprise us with new ways to fuck up.
Now would be the best time to do it
Unless it's a dead cat moment :)
I don't think government will let the company fold. The stock will go up not in the short term but over 10-15 years it will surely fly.
Having said than enron is still in the back of the mind.
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Was it a Satellite Max?
...was designed and manufactured by Boeing Space Systems and launched in 2016. It provided broadband services, including internet and phone communication services, to parts of Europe, Africa, and most of Asia.
IS-33e was the second satellite to be launched as part of Boeing's "next generation" EpicNG platform. The first, dubbed IS-29e, failed due to a propulsion system fuel leak. Intelsat declared the satellite a total loss in April 2019, later attributing it to either a micrometeoroid strike or solar weather activity.
What caused IS-33e to break up in orbit remains unclear, however. Intesalt officials did observe that it was using far more fuel than it should be to maintain its orbit shortly after launching eight years ago, shaving off 3.5 years of its 15-year lifetime.
Could be a coincidence, but I feel "Boeing leaks" approaching "Samsung exploding" levels of memification (where they had washers, phones and some other things all exploding, and the look was not great).
Samsung shook the meme off, but I feel like Boeing will have a harder time.
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did you know that high powered lasers are invisible to the naked eye without a sufficient particulate medium to pass through?
Good thing I'm wearing clothes.
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