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[–] [email protected] 103 points 4 days ago (3 children)

... with blackjack and hookers.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How much is that option package?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Aprox $35,000 less than a comparable Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Take my money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

So it's free?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

In fact, forget the EV!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Restart the Beetle plant and make an EV version of the original.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Give me like 150-200 miles range and charge ~$20k and I'd buy it. Don't need anything fancy, just something to get to work and back.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something people don't consider is that lighter cars can have better ranges with smaller batteries. That also means it doesn't take as long to charge the batteries when you stop somewhere for lunch. The Aptera is the only EV that's light enough to get away with pure solar charging for most use cases. An aluminum beetle with solar covering the roof might be close as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That would be sick, and I could probably drop my mileage needs to 100-150 if solar charging is effective. I basically just need to get to/from work in the winter, and our winters tend to have pretty clear skies unless there's a storm (in which case I'd WFH).

Some inexpensive options would get more people interested in EVs.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What the article fails to discover is that Mexico already has an electric car. https://zacua.com/?lang=en , design is similar to a smart four two, range is low ~ 124 miles and price is high for Mexico ~ 30k usd. The BYD dolphin is in Mexico around ~21k with a range of 236 miles. So the Mexican one doesn’t compete at all.

It would be great if there are more incentives to the local production, so this may be good thing for Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The Zacua only goes up 85kph. While it may be good for intra city driving it may not be ideal for much else, even in Mexico with somewhat lower max road speeds.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

The price point is way off, but strangely enough I've personally been champing at the bit for something with pretty much exactly those specs,just at about half the price.

Currently, I daily drive an SUV and do get good use out of it. I have to commute in the snow (essential employee,) I have outdoorsy hobbies that require hauling people and camping gear around, I tow some small trailers, I use it pretty frequently to move furniture, pick up lumber and other bulky stuff from the hardware store, etc. and while I don't go off-roading in the sense that I don't purposely go looking for rocks to climb and mud to drive through for fun, I do sometimes drive onto a beach to fish or drive onto fields for various reasons, and find myself on some really shitty dirt roads where some ground clearance and 4wd are necessary. I'm doing those things usually a few times a month.

But most of my daily driving adds up to 20 miles a day or less, on paved roads, rarely going over 45mph. I also have a wonky schedule where I rarely have to work more than 3 days in a row, and it's usually just me and occasionally my wife or my dog (rarely both at the same time)

I can't quite afford 2 cars, but something like this at the right price point would probably tip the scales in my favor. I could daily drive the small cheap electric car and save my SUV (or maybe a small truck) for my days off when I'm doing stuff that it's needed for while the small car charges.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Ahh yes that’s true I forgot that, while that not a highway speed it is perfectly fine for city, most cities max speed is around 40/60 km/h in Mexico. The designof the car is purely for inside city.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If you're after a small and affordable electric car then you're not exactly in the market for a Tesla anyway. What is this headline?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

"If you're after a small and affordable electric car then you're not exactly in the market for a Tesla anyway."

That's the point of the headline and article.

since Tesla isn't making the affordable cars they promised to consumers, countries like Mexico are going to make the affordable cars promise to consumers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Musk Says" has to be the biggest reddest of all red flags anyone has ever put up.

He says all sorts of stuff, I'm pretty sure by his schedule we should have colonized mars by now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I think it was 2029 for the first manned mission, but the rocket that's supposed to be the base for this still only explodes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well, he did say he'd put a man on Mars in 10 years... back in 2011.

...And then in 10 years in 2014 (meaning 2024).

...And then in 6 years in 2016 (meaning 2022)

...And then in 6 years again in late 2020 (meaning 2026)

Then we finally end up on his 2029 date back in 2022.

I'm sure I've missed one or two of his suggested landing years, but you get the point. He has no idea of when we'll actually go to Mars, he's just saying what gets him the most publicity.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

Everybody does ; when all voices get equal publicity, there is evolution. When voices that get publicity do so by being put in spotlight by someone looking after their own interest, that evolution stops working.

My opinion is that centralized search engines and centralized social media and in general centralized services must die. I don't know how we are going to do it, but they are fucking the humanity up big time, not even what Mr Hitler and his friends did (despite killing a lot of people, that failed to become mainstream and some kind of immunity emerged), but more like rolling back 200+ years of development of civic nations.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If they don't name it the Adobe they don't have a hair on their ass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

How are your knees? I saw that episode as a kid. Mine make noises when I stand up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I can't decide if I like this or the Big Red Viking commercial better.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't BYD building factories in Mexico?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yep, and cant wait to see them here in the US. NAFTA 2.0 says no tariffs

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Still need to pass safety tests and all that stuff

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They haven't had a problem in NZ and Aus.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ok... They don't have the same safety regulations...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

BDY sells their vehicles in Europe.

I do believe the safety regulations in the EU are actually stricter than in the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Depends, towing regulations for example are much stricter in North America

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Tesalsalitos

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

The affordable car act

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Nice! Hope we'll see it imported into the US too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

Good, Elon deserves nothing but the middle finger.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Good, Tesla sucks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

I'd love that, Tesla is a fucking joke of a company

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Güero Motors introduces its new, ultra-affordable EV for the North American taxi/Uber/Lyft market, the Cab Run.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

The Shevvie Siva.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Pretty sure Hyundai/Kia are coming out with a 20K EV, Citroen EC3 is coming out too. Dacia has had a 20K euro ev for a while but that looked kinda iffy.

VW e-up and Skoda Citigo EVs are a thing too, Fiat 500e but that's kinda expensive

So just invite hyundai/kia into your country?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

It might have a shot. It has a large auto industry already. All it needs are batteries and electric motors.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry, the US govt will put huge tariffs on them soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Probably can't do that under NAFTA (or whatever Trump renamed it to).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You mean like the softwood lumber dispute that's been going on for over 40 years where the US has put illegal tariffs on Canadian softwood exports? The one where they've been found in breach of the agreement multiple times and still haven't fixed it?

Yeah, I'm sure they would never put tariffs on Mexican electric cars to protect their own auto industries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_softwood_lumber_dispute

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Oh. Well, if we're gonna use facts in this argument...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

USMCA, like I'd you coughed while orgasming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Bring back the Nova and sell a bundle of some steel wool, rubber bands, and used 9v batteries. Package it all in a cookies tin.

Sell it as a direct competitor to the CyberTruck with all the same features and promises including towing a 911 faster than a 911.

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