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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Price Has No Limits™

PayStation ∆◯╳☐

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wow, just buy or build a comparable PC at that price point

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

remember when everyone was saying consoles where cheaper then pc and has more features

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think this piece of hardware is cheaper than a comparable PC, but longer term you'll pay quite a bit more for games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They talked about doing it this way at launch, which they should have. The drive is available as a peripheral, at the cost difference (actually cheaper) of the digital vs disc console. It simplifies manufacturing and distribution, which helps get more consoles on shelves. Now when it doesn't matter as much, they implement it. Go figure.

As far as killing off physical media, yes it pushes further that way, but honestly the game industry has been not favorable to retail stores for some time. This is the least of the offenses.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"least of the offenses"

I don't think you're zoomed out far enough. The constraint of physical media will be a deathstroke for consumers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I don't disagree. In fact I agree fully. But when the industry promotes early access games (digital only) and digital day 1 with physical to follow 3 or 6 months later, it is pushing consumers to digital. So its irrelevant if they do or do not have an optical drive on the console.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah, but the disc drive is the first thing to break, and replacement parts don't sell more consoles.

Now that the Console is overpriced to the extreme, modular parts are an added luxury.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Uhhh. Maybe I'm a little TOO far from the console crowd but I'm going to say this anyways.

Who tf cares? I'm a PC gamer and I've been without a disk drive since 2009.

I will happily admit it is definitely a different situation. For one, this would essentially give Sony a monopoly on games. Which would mean that they would never lower prices and gamers have no one to go to other than them. You know what I'm talking about, all the same shit that Nintendo has been doing for years.

I guess that I'm just curious how many people dislike this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Another big problem imo is also that you effectively lose ownership of your games. Inevitably, servers would be shut down and you wouldn't be able to download the games that you own. And that's if things go well. Some games could always just go away earlier as we've seen on other platforms. However, if you own the disk, then that's that, you can play the game forever.

On steam, the same problem could technically happen, but I trust Steam significantly more. It's very much in their best interest to keep growing their library of games and not stop supporting them. I still have games from 10+ years ago on it and I expect to keep them 10+ years from now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

cant function as a dvd player as well as console if there isnt a disc drive

some people just have games on disc and without a disc drive they either have to buy the disc drive seperate or rebuy their game digitally

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If I'm not mistaken it's actually a Blu-ray player not just a dvd player. Mind you this is from memory not necessarily a fact, lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It's def a blu-ray player. In fact it's not just that, it's a 4k blu-ray player.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Actually the disk drives makes the console attractive, as you can snag cheap second hand games

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Oh yeah, no doubt. One of the whole benefits of PC gaming is being able to snag games from other retailers. Honestly disk drive consoles have the advantage of being able to snag games from other users.

[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 week ago (8 children)

This is yet another nail in the coffin of physical media. Or, in other words games you actually own instead of long term lease.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 week ago (52 children)

It's not like physical media makes any difference anyway these days.

Actual disk often gets just a glorified installer, and even if it includes the entire game you're likely to have to activate it online anyway.

The "own your games" ship has sailed long ago, unless you only buy no-DRM and your own backups.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

unless you only buy no-DRM and your own backups

Going to have to plug GOG here as these are both things they offer. I try to buy games there instead of Steam, purely for this reason.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 week ago (19 children)

I think the steam deck is genuinely the only console worth buying these days.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It would be so funny if the EU decided Sony was a gatekeeper on the consoles without disc drives and forced them to allow 3rd party app store on them.

Hey, a guy can dream.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (10 children)

One big reason people still play on consoles to this day is because they own a physical copy of their games and can play on their consoles even offline.

Sometimes

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