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According to many comments, the US government DOES use SQL, and Musk is not understanding much what's going on.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Everything Elon has ever said could be a top post in r/iamverysmart or r/confidentlyincorrect

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It's going to be so expensive to fix all the damage this government is doing when America next has sensible government

So many skills lost, so many systems broken

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I bet he thinks SQL = MS SQL Server. And nothing else in the front end.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Isn't it a payments database? One client could have multiple payments. You wouldn't expect client IDs to be unique

[–] [email protected] 397 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's weird, I thought I used SQL databases from government agencies regularly. Guess I was mistaken.

[–] [email protected] 341 points 1 week ago (8 children)

If you and Elon disagree about something, just assume he's wrong about it. If you both agree on something, THEN you might be mistaken.

[–] [email protected] 394 points 1 week ago (15 children)
[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago

this really needs more circulation because too goddamn many people still believe his PR

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[–] [email protected] 348 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Elon’s shock and fury about the database key sounds like he got a report from an out-of-breath 20 year old DOGE kid who thinks they’re hot shit and discovered some massive flaw.

Elon also seems like the kind of person that believes a database schema is all that’s needed to govern a population.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He’s mad because it isn’t blockchain

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Goddammit, now you’re giving him ideas.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I wouldn’t be giving him any ideas unless I founded a company and he bought his way in

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[–] [email protected] 272 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (37 children)

I'm sure folks on here know this, but you know, there's also that 10K a day that don't so...

What makes this especially funny, to me, is that SSN is the literal text book example (when I was in school anyway) of a "natural" key that you absolutely should never use as a primary key. It is often the representative example of the kinds of data that seems like it'd make a good key but will absolutely fuck you over if you do.

SSN is not unique to a person. ~~They get reused after death, and a person can have more than one in their lifetime (if your id is stolen and you arduously go about getting a new one).~~ Edit: (See responses) It seems I'm misinformed about SSNs, apologies. I have heard from numerous sources that they are not unique to a person, but the specifics of how it happens are unknown to me.

And they're protected information due to all the financials that rely on them, so you don't really want to store them at all (unless you're the SSA, who would have guessed that'd ever come up though!?)

It's so stupid that it would be hilarious if people weren't dying.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Small correction to an otherwise great explanation: SSNs are not recycled after death.

**Q20:  *Are Social Security numbers reused after a person dies?*****A:  No. We do not reassign a Social Security number (SSN) after the number holder's death. Even though we have issued over 453 million SSNs so far, and we assign about 5 and one-half million new numbers a year, the current numbering system will provide us with enough new numbers for several generations into the future with no changes in the numbering system.

https://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html

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[–] [email protected] 261 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I remember seeing this after he bought Twitter

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[–] [email protected] 185 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (25 children)

You know, the thing that always seemed really scary about the OG Nazis is that they were competent, intelligent, put-together people that were just fucking evil. Then you look at the US Nazis and the fucking bozo density is off the charts, but they seem to be succeeding anyway.

Three possibilities come to mind:

  • These bozos are going to find out, hard and soon.
  • The OG Nazis were actually bozos too.
  • Competence and intelligence doesn't actually matter in running a fascist regime
[–] [email protected] 176 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The OG Nazis were actually bozos too, they just had very good propaganda. So good that you're still seeing the effects today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

The high leadership were absolute bozos, except for their propaganda guy (Goebel?). And at the lower levels, they had good engineering (still do). Thankfully the higher ups were more interested in building an über-weapon (because that’s good propaganda) than actually winning the war.

Let’s hope the current crop of nazis se their downfall faster. Actually, fuck hope. Let’s make them.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They were more competent bozos. They ran Germany the way that your stupid friend gets laid more often because they aren’t smart enough to be embarrassed by themselves and they know only one goal.

Whereas these guys run America like an ugly stupid person that insists that no, actually, they have already in fact convinced you to sleep with them despite what your words say and the goal is to confuse you into bed.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (3 children)

the OG Nazis were dumb as bricks lmao. Weird nerds with massive egos half of which believed in magic.

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[–] [email protected] 157 points 1 week ago (10 children)

As someone who has literally helped the government use SQL for over a decade, this is huge news.

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Calling someone a retard for believing something that's obviously true is straight out of the flat-Earther playbook.

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Elon is basically what a dumb kid thinks smart people sound like

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Elon starting to comment on technical matters was the moment I learned he was actually completely beyond incompetent, since I have some actual expertise on the subject. Right around the time he bought Twitter and commented publicly on its architecture.

This is further evidence to that point

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 1 week ago (4 children)

He got community-noted for being wrong. Per usual, it's only a matter of time before he deletes his post.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Sure as hell did when I worked there

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Jesus Fucking Christ !!!

What does Elmo think the government use ? MongoDB, because its Web Scale [0]?

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Lmao we’re gonna get to watch eel-on-musk and all of his dipshit wünderkinds speedrun through all of the pitfalls a junior DBA / data engineer is liable to make, and they’re gonna do it on prod, and prod is the US government.

What could possibly go wrong

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Isn’t Oracle a big government supplier with millions if not billions worth of contracts?

Elon is a fraud but for someone who claims he created one of the Web’s first e-commerce sites this level of ignorance is embarrassing

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Everything uses SQL. The world fucking runs on SQL

(yes I know SQL isn't something that you can "run" something on yadda yadda...)

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Your tax dollars are being stolen”

Rare moment of clarity from our global barony.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

A government official known for performing a nazi salute just broadcast an ableist slur.

Cool cool cool

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maury determined that this was a lie.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Someone needs to explain to Musk how to debug with the JSON so that the ipv6 GUI does not overflow into the git API front-end

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago

Whenever Elon speaks of programming, he just spouts the most delusional Point-Haired Boss bullshit imaginable. Truly, he has been promoted to the level of his incompetence.

(It is also highly ironic considering the Dilbert creator's politics.)

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (12 children)

It's hard to figure out what he's talking about , when he says the "whole social security database". Like in which tables are they duplicated? Does it mean the entire row is duplicated or just the SSN, it might make sense to be duplicated depending on the schema. Is it an append only db, so there might be updated columns on the same ssn and you need to filter by the latest update timestamp? Who knows.

But also, saying that there's a "social security database" and then following that up by the govt "doesn't use SQL" so.. the db is actually just a spreadsheet? A .txt file? The SSNs are just written down in someone's notebook? Lol

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The more this dipshit talks about programming the more I'm convinced that he's got absolutely no clue how any of it works. Like, he's famous for creating PayPal, I'm really wondering if he paid someone to code that shit and just took credit (and all the money from its sale).

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He didn't create PayPal. He co-founded x.com, and was replaced as ceo for being inexperienced in less than a year. x.com later merged with confinity, which operated PayPal. It was at this point that musk returned as CEO, until he got kicked out again in 2000.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If SSN based fraud is the program then let's establish an actual federal identification number. Even the Social Services bureau tried to get everyone to not use it as the end all source of truth. They only created it for social security benefits, literally only that purpose.

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