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What's great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he's absolving Musk, or that he's criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,

'No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!'

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago

Let's repeat it again kids. Elon Musk is a piece of shit

[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Headlines are being headlines, I get it, but Fry was repeating a joke:

“I heard a very good joke yesterday,” the QI host, 67, told Stig Abell on Times Radio on Thursday.

“Someone said, ‘Musk is not a Nazi... Nazis made really good cars,’” he went on, before bursting out laughing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

Right, and here's the clip.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 10 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 139 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Hur hur. I'd wish people would stop assigning hyper-competence to Nazis. They never were. Hitler was a drug addict and the trains didn't run on time.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Hitler was a drug addict and the trains didn't run on time.

German trains still don't run on time. Can't blame that one on the Nazis, that's just a German thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Still better than Canadian rail. That shit is regularly late. Significantly late.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I had four long distance ICE journeys in the last two months. Three where thirty minutes late, one was two hours late.

Also had four long distance TGV journeys, of which one was about 20 minutes late, and one was an hour late, though that delay happened in Germany.

Apparently, DB is currently working on the infrastructure, but those renovations haven't been fully funded, and it looks like the conservatives will get in next.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

On Via Rail Canada, my train trip was 3h. The delay was 3h. So it literally was double the amount of time.

European train delay is nothing compared to Canadian train delay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, OK, my journeys where all around five hours. Double is kinda mad.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Exactly this. My grandmother lived under the Nazis and she said they were fucking idiots. Exactly the same type of incompetent blowhards. The whole hyper scientific ubermensch BS in the cultural zeitgeist is so frustrating. I blame all the WWII video games and movies that played up the myth to have more interesting villains than the sleazy shit stains that they actually were.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The strength of the Germans was that I.) they had a really good industrial base, and ii.) the traditions within the army meant they had extremely well trained soldiers. Both of these predate nazi-rule. For instance, Germans also arguably had the best (equipped) army in WW1.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

Early Nazis also galvanized a young working force with actual socialist policies that guaranteed them good jobs and housing (before Hitler's multiple violent party purges, scrapping most of it for a fascist-capitalist junta)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

I blame all the WWII video games and movies that played up the myth to have more interesting villains than the sleazy shit stains that they actually were.

I guess Wolfenstein being banned for glorifying Nazis actually had some merit.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 hours ago

It's hard to convince people that they've been had by a bunch of morons.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 hours ago

You do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to them

[–] [email protected] 56 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Still a Nazi.

Just America shrinkflated Nazism so the intelligence had to go. Still 100% of the hate and malice America loves to eat though.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yes. He's still a Nazi. You're not getting the point.

Fry is trying to provoke Musk into saying, "yes, they're good enough," turning it an admission that he is indeed a Nazi.