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[–] [email protected] 103 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While I would love people to come over to mastodon (or mastodon adjacent) I personally think this is a step in the right direction. Having more fediverse adjacent platforms makes it easier for people to communicate in a much less platform specific conglomeration.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Mastodon is broken as fuck for me. I don't know if it's my instance, or the country I'm in, or what. The app mostly just spins and hangs. It's been like this for a year. I've never been able to see who other people are following, which is something I like to do to discover new content. I've never been able to view videos that people post. I joined in 2020 and I'm probably just going to delete my account.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As much as I don’t believe bsky will be any different, and won’t join it myself, the momentum is there. Took a little longer than it should have but the tipping point is here and we should all relish in the bird’s passing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think bluesky and twitter will become politically divided and become their respective echo chamber rather than Twitter going out of fashion.

Overall the discourse quality will go down at both places.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

A lot of people exist on twitter because their favorite celebrity or news cite or company exists on there. The problem is that the lefties and LGBTQ folk create a ton of twitters content and are also a huge majority of those celebrities.

So while I think twitter will become a sort of right wing cesspool, BlueSky will be much different. Especially since BS has the ability to essentially build your own echo chamber on purpose. Which I actually think is fine because some of the echo chambers I’d compare to the instances on here that try to keep people safe and civil like beehaw. But the moment bluesky keeps getting celebs and organizations to make the swap, it’s all over for twitter. There is a critical mass there that will migrate regardless and honestly the echo chamber design means right wing folk would also do well on the platform if they know what they’re doing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My bet is that Truth Social buys Twitter in an all-share deal, simultaneously enriching Trump and providing liquidity to Musk.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thought may happen but it will still be an improvement.

The big problem with Twitter / X is everything ends up being about politics.

Want to talk about a video game, you can't because some dipstick mega supporter is going to accuse it of being woke.
Want to talk about a programming language, nope apparently that is woke too.
Want to share a funny cat picture, nah, can't do that apparently a man having a cat is gay and woke.

It's exhausting dealing with these idiots.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

The bird died years ago. Now we wait for the death of a letter.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm glad to see Twitter/X collapsing if only to add to Musk's problems, but at the same time just changing the corporate logo over the outhouse doesn't make it smell any better. It's a better place, but I'm sure it's temporary, the same people/bots/trolls will just migrate right along with the rest of them.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This seems fine, so long as the journos remember how to pull up stakes once a platform decays. I hope they learn a lesson about the importance of owning your own audience, follower lists, etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

/glances at substack

I hope that too. It would be nice.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

The difference being that Bluesky has very robust block lists which you can subscribe to to remove these accounts for you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not sure if this is an age thing but at a certain point I just stopped wanting “forever fixes”. Nothing is forever. You’re just patching in the hopes that the nex hole is easier to patch now that you have all the shit you need to do patches.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How many more times am I going to see this same title before X implodes?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Can it implode? Leon can just keep burning money to keep it alive. It's going to probably be funded by the government soon anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Same for Reddit, still very much alive apparently.

(I'm not going back, I'm happy here)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

"Journalists flock to yet another proprietary, commercial platform as the last becomes increasingly 'toxic' for reasons unknown."

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

Oh shut up with that.

You act like there's some kind of alternative which there isn't. Mastodon, which I'm sure you were going to mention, absolutely does not count because it's a nightmare to use and they haven't bothered to fix any of its problems.

So there is no viable alternative.

Also because it's so awful to use, no one does use it, and so no one's on the platform. After all, journalists need to go where the viewers are.

There is zero point being smug about your open source platform, if no one uses your open source platform.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

News outlets should be spinning up their own federated social media instances, so that THEY control their own platform, akin to a website, or email addresses.

That solves all of their issues with it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, what’s the alternative? Mastodon culturally could not get its shit together enough to be a viable alternative.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Ten years later

"Journalists flock from Bluesky...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No elon... literally all that matters

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

To call hate speech and harassment "toxicity" downplays both issues.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People thought the first Trump presidency was a politically divided time, but maybe we're now entering an even more divided time, given that social media is now fragmenting along political lines, more prominently than it did before.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

When a Maga billionaire buys a large social media platform... that will cause the divide. And it is.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Hahaha, they're just now noticing? Rich.

And how will Bkuesky be any different? It won't.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago

You're measuring Bluesky with a different measuring stick than they are.

You're measuring it with the "This is decentralized, and therefore not connected to corporate interests, and never can be" stick.

These journalists WORK FOR the corporate interests you left twitter (or maybe never had an account) over. They are measuring the stick by "These current users are just MAGA users in a cult".

As long as Bluesky doesn't start shifting right wing MAGA, it IS different for their purposes. It's just their purposes are not YOUR purposes, and therefore they can still say that it's different, and not have that be a lie. Doesn't mean it'll satisfy you any.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

the same level of toxicity that I left reddit for seems to be permeating Lemmy, now.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Bluesky has far more robust tools for blocking bad actors. You can subscribe to auto updating block lists which take these people off your feed.

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