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Alternatives to Real Debrid (Debrid Services) (slrpnk.net)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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For those of us hit by the recent announcement here is a graph I found with some other services worth checking for your next voyages. I have crossed out All-Debrid too as that is also hosted in France and is bound to be hit by the same hammer as Real-Debrid was.

Feel free to share your alternative solutions in the comments below, but always do you research carefully!

The graph shows which Debrid services are supported by each addon for Stremio. Torbox seems to be a new popular and modern alternative. If anyone has any experience with any of the listed services then feel free to share your experiences in the comments.

Edit: Debrid-Link is also French!

Source to graph: https://guides.viren070.me/stremio/faq?debrid-service=real-debrid#which-debrid-services-are-supported-by-each-addon

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What are some non-piracy use cases for real-debrid?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Distributing Linux ISOs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would someone pay for RD for that instead of just using the torrent there directly or the direct download from the servers? I don't know it seems like overkill to use a debrid service for something like that.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 weeks ago

Oh my sweet summer child

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

None

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Afaik: Non.
Personal projects?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Out of the loop here, what happened to real debrid? Its the most useful piracy tool i have used in years.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In short: it's gone "full legal" mode. Blocking most used streaming sites and removed their API access. So it's literally unusable for folks sailing the high seas.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah, very disappointing, luckily, the downloader still works semi-reliably for software. I only have 21 days left anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://x.com/realdebrid/status/1859673163681960169?s=46&t=v7hlI5j-ie2ub28ChSkAKw

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

non twitter link: nitter.poast.org/realdebrid/status/1859673163681960169

yeah, that sucks. It was literally perfect for what i needed. ah well

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Trying out TorBox as I write this. Has some cool features and it looks like a lot of people from RD are hopping over to it. New servers are arriving Monday for the huge amount of new users. And it's also quite cheap. There's a black friday sale going on right now too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Having lived in France for 2 years i can say that the bureaucracy there is out of control. Paperwork upon paperwork upon paperwork to get ANYTHING done. That said, any formal notice probably took years to draft and send, and then the debrid folks probably can drag their heels for years. I'm personally not jumping ship quite yet but i'll pay month to month and wait it out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like most countries in western Europe. Germany being the worst.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't say that Germany is the worst.

Because my request to do so is pending since '09.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I was able to fully switch to Prem this morning in < 15 minutes fwiw.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Kinda related, it seems that the Fen Light addon creator also says goodbye to the Kodi scene... It seems like a big day for streaming piracy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any idea how this affects those of us who only use it for random stuff where torrents are too slow or to bypass Rapidshare speed limits?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Not sure tbh. Guess it depends what you are downloading and if you are using their service directly and not through their API. They will not block and ban people downloading stuff from their banned lists and their API can no longer be used.

It's better to switch Debrid Service to support someone willing to host a better service imo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Me still using Premiumize.

Holiday Prepaid sale is live

~$3.86/month

w/36 month subscription

Seren/Otaku fed into TMDb add-on w/Arctic Fuze skin ✅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

debrid link is also hosted in France.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How is Debrid-link? Its considerably cheaper than Premiumize

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not sure myself, just went with one month of Premiumize to test that first. Will then try the rest too see which service suits me better.

Ah NVM... Debrid Link is also French.... https://debrid-link.com/legal

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

The 2 and 3 year black friday deal (only this week!) for premiumize is cheap per month

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

This is why I just pay a small fee for access to a Plex/emby server.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What are these?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Afaik a remote torrent client that you stream the media from.
Something like a cross between a seedbox and a media cloud. Then you either implement it somehow into your media streamer like Jellyfin/Plex or a browser.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lot of idiots fell for the panic. Haven't heard a peep form the people claiming RD is gonna be dead anytime now lmao

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Aaaannnd Real Debrid is working again...wild ride this is

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why is AllDebrid crossed out? Just cause its French based as well?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have crossed out All-Debrid too as that is also hosted in France and is bound to be hit by the same hammer as Real-Debrid was.

[+] [email protected] -12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Kind of misleading as all debrid works fine and there is no guarantee it will be "hit by the same hammer" anytime soon or ever. The reasoning your using is an appeal to probability which is a logical fallacy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Do as you wish, pay for what you want to pay for - its your money.

That being said; these services will have to comply with French law. Real-Debrid probably didn't have much choice to do what they did as they were hit with a formal notice from the French Federation of Film Distributors (FNEF). The french have been for a long while now been trying very hard to remove as many of these services as possible. First it was Hadopi agency, now merged with the Higher Audiovisual Council to form the more powerful regulator Arcom. Here's a SS from this article about their anti-piracy efforts in 2022.

Similar services that are hosted in France will have to comply the second they get a notice from Arcom. France is obviously way more committed to removing piracy I'd say its a good call to not pay into french services... Personally, I wont be paying for services hosted in France as I believe its only a matter of time before more are struck down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

They where "hit" by the Federation of Film Distributors, not by any French court.

We can't assume any legal consequences just yet and certainly not outside French jurisdiction. People should keep their head together before jumping to conclusions of being hit by hammers, or by announcements or worse...possible hangings and guillotines.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not sure why there is so much push back. You made a post showing alternatives to real debrid but you crossed out all debrid even though it works.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

France has extremely powerful copyright trolls, restrictive laws, and a culture of oppression by bureaucrats. There's even a tax on storage mediums that goes to the MAFIAA. what.cd got nuked, RealDebrid got threatened hard enough that they gave in. I wouldn't spend any money on anything illegal hosted in France.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I mean its already working again...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you not feeling the hammer of being hit by an announcement?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

They're probably one of the people who were back on r/RealDebrid or r/Addons4Kodi who were blatantly in-denial that anything would ever happen to RealDebrid, and still are in denial about it. Despite the evidence being clear and straight from the horse's mouth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, it will likely meet the same fate as RealDebrid in the future.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What fate is that? RD still works lol

People just way to wrapped up in the reddit made panic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They removed some APIs and are blocking some torrents by name, other torrents may still work for now but don't get too comfortable though. They will likely start removing the cached torrents with copyrighted content in the future.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

The API has been mostly worked around. stremio, the major addons, rdt, and zurg works.

People keep saying "just wait..." but nothing ever happens.

There have been issues caused by maintenance that were more troublesome then this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

You know what, do as you wish, just like @[email protected] already said. It's your money and you're free to waste it. However this list and advice is here to help people who desire not to waste their own money not end up wasting their own. Now they've already given an official annoucement on their Twitter that they are taking steps to limit or action illegal content. If you wish to not see the writing on the wall that's up to you, but it does exist and it is happening.

[+] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This list is inaccurate as I’ve already pointed out but stay on your high horse lol.

Telling people to switch services when the service they have actually works and then giving an inaccurate list of services to switch to, is not as helpful as you think it is.

Considering that you actually haven't pointed out how this list is inaccurate in this comment thread. Just said that people should keep using the service and paying for it, and that it's not going away (service itself isn't but the content it is used for is, making it useless), despite the fact that it will almost certainly begin to become much less useful due to the nature of this event. If you're talking about the inclusion of AllDebrid OP has explained that they are within the same Jurisdiction as RealDebrid, a jurisdiction known to have powerful copyright trolls, and we're not in the bussiness of telling people to use and pay for services that are basically guaranteed to leave people in the same situation as this one.

Also pointing to a 4 day old tweet about what RD is going to do in the “coming hours” as “writing on the wall” , when the service still works is hilarious.

I think you being so hardcore in-denial of this crackdown despite the notice being from them officially is even more hilarious. What was done with addons that use RealDebrid is a workaround of API changes, if/when they delete/ban the infringing cached torrents this isn't going to help.

I'm confident that you are a troll at this point. I don't see how someone could look at their message and keep claiming RD is fine and "not going anywhere" in good faith.

[+] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“But its in France” is a weak excuse at best. This is reminiscent of the BS 14 eyes marketing people try to use to convince users not to use Mullvad as a VPN.

Thank you, now we're devolving into the territory of misrepresentation and an apples to oranges comparison. Let's start with the bad comparison. A VPN is a very different beast than a Seedbox, as VPNs relay connections and don't host content. Now of course where they are based does indeed matter but even in the case of Mullvad their main base of operations isn't even based in France, it's in Sweden, so this whole comparson is rubbish and if you'd had bothered to check you would have seen that. Moreover a seedbox or debrid service unlike a VPN is a hosting service, they download and cache torrents. So if they are based in a country currently waging war against hosting of copyrighted content, and services are receiving takedown requests they are very likely to be also hit. Which is why AllDebrid and Debrid-Link are being recommended against by OP and others (me included).

I’m not sure how you can keep believing what you are saying with every passing day proving you are wrong. How many more days before you admit your were full of shit?

Prove me wrong, prove that RealDebrid will last through this, not technically, I mean that it will remain useful for Pirated streaming and that they won't start deleting cached data. If they don't do it and these changes get walked back I will happily admit to being wrong. Otherwise you're no different to any of the other dipshits from r/RealDebrid trying to encourage people to continue paying for a service about to become very useless in the weeks or months to come (or getting angry that people are requesting refunds or chargebacks).

How about just trying not to get caught in the hype for a few days and, wait for something to actually break for longer then a few hours? Instead of making outlandish claims based on one tweet probably written by lawyers.

Agreed, let's wait and see. In the meantime I and OP are still not encouraging others to buy into a service like this which will likely just go out. Instead encouraging people to use different services that aren't based and hosted in the country going to town on the current one over piracy. And if you don't like it either suck it up or seethe and whine.

But hey let’s see who the real troll is, put your money where your mouth is and bet me. Shoot me a DM with terms, we can get a signed contract (I’m assuming your a payment risk) and I’ll be happy to take some money off you. It can pay for my RD sub.

I don't answer you, or other disreputable people online who claim they are reputable and make bad-faith arguments. Your desire to try and challenge me for bets or dares does tell me all that I need to know, I will not respond to this conversation any more as it has long outlived any level of usefulness or constructiveness. Goodbye.