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Or so sayeth the common stereotype...

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)
  1. The German language doesn't work well with pun based humour. This is the kind of humour English speakers are used to.
  2. They do but you need to be able to speak German to understand the jokes they're making. Understandably, it's hard to be funny in a second language.
  3. IME German humour is often incredibly dry, deadpan or even anti-humour. In the past I've experienced Germans making jokes, and British people thinking they were being deadly serious. Eg. "An Irishman, a German and a Brit walk into a bar. They order beer." Expressionless face - shit example, but you get the idea.
[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

On point 1: I've had enough German puns explained to my non-German speaking ass to know they are exceptional at pun based humor. The problem is, puns only work in the language they were developed in. When you translate them to other languages, the words are different so the wordplay disappears.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, English humour is also dry, sarcastic and/or satirical, it seems to be American humour that doesn't pick up on the dry jokes.

But yeah, also the language barrier hits hard.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've found that many Germans (including me) greatly enjoy British humor. I think both are pretty similar

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

The British are super funny, best humor. Germans make too many puns or word plays, but i enjoy those too as a german, haha.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I fully agree on the second and third point, but the first one is completely wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Because a lot of German humor is pun based and when the translated into English, the joke doesn't land and so the English started this farce that the Germans ain't funny

Germans are plenty funny, the English are the problem

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

I think I agree with your overall point, but not quite your reason for it. I don't think German humour is more pun/word play heavy than other comedy elsewhere. It's just that the German language is one of the more complicated ones and allowes for very complex puns, that are often impossible to translate while also trying to preserve the comedic delivery.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Are you jealous of our humour?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Like this one?

https://youtu.be/gG62zay3kck

I thought it was funny then I realized English isn't far off from that.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The Germans have excellent humour; in fact, they take it very seriously.

As they say, "German humour, it is no laughing matter!"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Being german, I've already heard this joke a thousand times, but it's so true that it makes me laugh every time. I think many germans are big on sarcasm, where arguably the main part of the joke is the complete seriousness of whoever makes the joke.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

How many Germans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

One. They are efficient and not very funny.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Well, I'm German.

And fricking love UK panel shows. 8oo10c, catscountdown, WILTY, Taskmaster, QI, Big Fat Quiz, HIGNFY, The last leg, ... and the standup of most of the people on these shows. And of course Monty Python is legendary.

So if I don't have a good sense of humour ... neither have you guys!

On the flip side, I also really like Mr. Bean, which seems common among Germans.

And did you know we watch "Dinner for One" every new years eve? Like that is a serious tradition in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What do you think of Henning Wehn? Do you think he's a good German comedy ambassador?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I like him. I've actually not seen any of his solo material.

I think it's hard to judge him, because whenever he's on a panel show, there automatically will be jokes about Germany from other comedians as well. And I always enjoy those. So him being on just makes the shows better in general for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Nearly nobody knows "Dinner for One" in the UK. Frinton was just a one-man (or one man and one woman) show who did gigs in small theatres for tourists in some seaside towns (mostly).

Imagine my surprise when I learned that people in our twinned town North East Lincolnshire knew about him - Freddy Frinton was born there...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For me, German humour is at its best when it's using subtitles in the German language - not really through puns, but by using language to highlight contradictions and absurdities. Obviously, this humour does not translate well at all.

After learning German and re-reading some Kafka stories I was struck by how stories I had read as somewhat somber in English were actually full of a weird sense of humour in the original German. It's still absurd and unsettling, but somehow Kafka is also funny.

Then again, he wasn't German.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Subtilities! Writing with a swype keyboard has its shortcomings.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Robin Williams had an interesting answer to the question.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Love Robin and great answer!!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You wanna hear a good German joke? Here it goes: Ein Mann kommt zum ersten Mal in den Knast, er als kleiner Wirtschafts Verbrecher zwischen den ganzen harten Langstraflern. Erster Tag in der Dusche, ein riesiger, nackter Kerl kommt auf ihn zu, behaart wie ein Gorilla und ein riesen Dödel. "Du bist jetzt meine neue Freundin. Mit Spucke oder ohne?" Der Neue, verzweifelt, wimmerte "Wenn's den sein muß, mit..." Der Gorilla brüllt nach hinten "Ey, Spucke, du bist auch mit dabei."

Q.E.D.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dem wird danach der @sagrotan laufen XD

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Exakt daher kommt der Spitzname, meine Tochter war 5 oder 6, hat Anlauf genommen und mit BEIDEN FÜSSEN in meine Weichteile, da lief mir der sagrotan! Eine Woche seltsam sitzen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Germans do have humor. It is actually not that different from English humor in style.

The idea that Germans have no humor comes from a number of reasons. To understand a foreign joke, you need a thorough grasp of that language. And this applies to any foreign language - I could not understand e.g. a French joke, but I would not deny that they most likely love humor, too.

Then, most English or American peoples impression of Germans stem from times of war or shortly after - only a small minority bothered to update their views later. During the war, allied propaganda had obviously different goals than promote German humor or Germans as funny people. And people in the early years of post-war Germany had not much to laugh about in life, their prime job was to survive in less than funny circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Or Henning Wehn

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

From what I understand, German people are very serious and value efficiency in the workplace above all else. Or so the common stereotype goes anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I believe German comedians have to complete a Bewerbungsformularfürakzeptablenhumor before every show and every audience member must complete a Formularzurhaftungsfreistellungfürhumor and hand in to the comedian before the show can begin at the precise time stated as detailed in the Regierungsgesetzüberhumor in Deutschsprachigenortenindeutschland

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Bewerbungsformularfürakzeptablenhumor

That would be "Scherzereibewerbungsformular" nowadays. The old Bewerbungsformularfürakzeptablenhumor was abolished in August 2020, along with the Clownpolizei.

If a Sherzereibewerbungsformular is approved, you get a Scherzereigenehmigung for the next 30 days, starting at the next non-holiday calendar day, good for 1x (one) Scherz per day. If you exceed that quota, you have to pay a fine to the Humorüberwachungsamt (HUA) or face jail time. Professional Scherzemacher and Sprücheklopfer are exempt from this and may get a Witzelei-Lizenz for up to one year at a time, but you need an official Dummfugdiplom for that.

German humor is no laughing matter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nobody writes Deutschsprachigenortenindeutschland nowadays. Instead everyone is using easy memorizable short abbreviation
DtSChGTDtSchL.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So, LPS (laughter per second) should be higher for German comedians?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you compare the volume of carbon dioxide produced while telling the joke, vs the amount the audience produced laughing at it

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Obligatory german humor is the wurst.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Ungefahrt is a funny-sounding German word

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Do you mean "ungefähr" (it means approximately)? The Umlaut is not optional. Otherwise it looks like "umgefahren". But "Ungefahrt" is not a German word.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Umfahren is a nice German word. It could mean to drive around somebody or to knock somebody over. Total opposite meaning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Sounds like it'd be great friends with the English terms "oversight" and "sanction".

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

*german-sounding word

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