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Yesterday, I suddenly noticed that the "Return Youtube Dislike" extension wasn't working, as in, I wasn't seeing any dislikes. Is Youtube the cause of this? or this is just some random bug?

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not an open-ended, thought providing question. Locking.

[–] [email protected] 165 points 1 year ago

YouTube made some minor UI changes, which caused the current version of Return YouTube Dislike in the Mozilla Addons Store to not work. A fix has been submitted for review to Firefox and other browser stores, but that takes time and Mozilla has get to accept the new version. Adding the current version manually from their GitHub page does work just fine, if you don’t feel like waiting.

https://github.com/Anarios/return-youtube-dislike/issues/944

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wish videos were hosted on different websites like the old days. Your friends would suggest a website to you to see a funny video like dumb.com and homestar runner. YouTube came along and now they have a monopoly on 99% of full length videos. Make your voice heard and stop using YouTube- host your own videos and keep the spirit of the old web alive

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Host your own videos where? The average user isn't likely to start hosting their own file server

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There’s lots of free resources on the internet for learning how to do that. I just wish people would realize that the more you learn about technology, the more you can manipulate the world around you for the better, especially in this decade.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

You're not wrong, but realistically, there's no chance of it happening.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since you sound like you're familiar with the topic, what web-based software do you recommend for hosting videos on a VPS?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m definitely more of a hardware guy, but at least I’m old enough to remember the internet before corporations took it over

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, so... you're advocating for the average user to self-host, but it turns out you don't even do it yourself?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No? I'm not a networking guy, I mainly deal with hardware. I do remember when the internet was decentralized and all the innovative content was independent of things like social media. Just because I don't know how to set up my own video server off the top of my head doesn't mean I don't support it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point being, if you're an IT guy who supports the idea and yet can't find the motivation to do it, do you honestly think there's a snowball's chance in hell of anybody else doing it?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Out of desperation, yes

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Ironically, YouTube fixed the problem of having to search for videos all around the internet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

You can still upload on archive.org

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've been thinking about getting a Nebula subscription for awhile now. Most of the channels I subscribe to are on there so I'd feel good paying to support them. And Practical Engineering's new (now finished) series was so good, I want to see more stuff like that instead of hoping the YouTube algorithm suggests something worth watching

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a hack - unsanctioned third party extensions are inherently pretty hackish and just work however they can. They frequently depend on things that can change in unpredictable ways, so breaking with updates is just business as usual.

Assuming the project is actively maintained, there should be a fix available at some point.

Edit: this is assuming they have their own infrastructure, I have no idea if that's true. If things were really relying on hidden but "deprecated" API stuff, like some people ITT say, you could be SoL - they can just remove that at their leisure and it's odd they haven't.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

They do have their own infrastructure, the old api was 100% killed a long time ago. Before that happened they scraped and archived as many youtube videos as possible (through a distributed computing effort) now they use a combination of historical data and likes vs views to give a best estimation of the true dislike amount. It has been tested to be close but of course not exact.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same it does not work for me either. yt probably changed something and broke it

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should use its own API tho. YT is not giving that data for a year as I remember.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more likely an issue with the placement of the stats rather than the data behind it. YouTube probably updated the UI in a way that Return Dislikes is not compatible with.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah makes sense 👍

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Use their TamperMonkey add-on, that seems to still work. I uninstalled the extension before enabling the TamperMonkey userscript. Firefox here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I still see the dislikes on Revanced and Libretube. Might just be a UI change on desktop.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Known issue, they are working on it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh...weird. I can still see the dislike button itself, but there is no longer a number next to it. (Firefox desktop browser here, up to date)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That means it’s no longer working. YouTube never removed the dislike button, just the dislike counter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Displaying of things is easy to change/fix depending on what the extension is written in. It still works for me though on desktop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

works on the newpipe fork as well

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I heard is for a good while YouTube still had the numbers on the backend of the website, just hidden, and the extension allowed you to continue seeing it, and continue disliking videos.

However they were planning on eventually removing the functionality althoghther instead of it just being invisible to users.

So assuming that's what's happened, then I'm pretty sure it's gone permanently now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, return dislike used their own algorithm based off whether users of return disliked it and then compared that to the total views of the video to give a rough idea of the total number. YouTube gave them jack shit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Oh I was mistaken then, my bad!