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Like, you just look weird if you sitting by yourself (example: waiting at a bus stop) and just stairing into space, so like its basically social expectation to be on your phone when you are by yourself.

Plus, just feels like if you don't have a phone on you, you are missing a lot of information (access to the internet, maps, etc.) that you might need in case you get lost or something.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 57 minutes ago

I was on the metro recently and didnt feel like using my phone. tried to zone out into space but kept feeling like people were looking at me funny, noticing I wasn't looking down at a phone. made me feel so u comfortable I took my phone out and forced myself to use it for the next 20 mins

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

I'd end up staring at people while I drink my coffee without my phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Not really, but I'm old. I grew up in the '80s and '90s. I still prefer not to forget my cell, mostly because there's no payphones anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

its basically social expectation to be on your phone when you are by yourself.

Books and newspapers are not forbidden (yet?)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah but only because I have literally no personality and will stare blankly in space (and 9 times out of 10, in the direction of some random person) and I'm only worried about not blending in enough without starting stupid fights. I wasn't listening to your stupid conversation, I was completely zoned out but okay. It was probably a really stupid conversation about stupid marijuana products and brand names and "attractive" men who look like personified dead rats or something stupid I wasn't even interested in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Not really. The only thing I'd be missing access to is where I am on my finances when shopping and I don't have it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I don't even know how I survived the 90s. When you were waiting for the bus the most entertaining thing you could do was stare at your shoes or throw a rock at the stop sign

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I would run out of ads to stare at and then just space out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

A Walkman or book

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The boredom was real, but also like...thoughts would turn over in undirected and sometimes fruitful ways, too. At least for me. My mind does far less just "idling" these days, and while too much of that is a real kind of misery, I think some is probably useful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

When I have idle time for thoughts to enter my brain is when bad things happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Heard lol, it's not a universal good

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

I'm 50, old enough to remember when we didn't have answering machines or call waiting or anything, and yet I can't go to the kitchen to stir my tea without my phone. I'm not saying it's good. To be fair I do read a lot of books on it though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

My take-out burrito wasn't ready on-time and I forgot my phone in my vehicle. I had to look at posters on the wall while I waited! Please pray for me, it was awful and I'm still traumatized.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

About a decade ago, I fell and broke my ankle while out running.

It was only by sheer chance that this happened around a bunch of people, and I was able to get help immediately. If I'd been out somewhere else or at a different time, I would have been absolutely fucked.

Since that day, I never leave the house without my phone, ever.

(if I'm hiking somewhere out of range, then I map out my route and ensure that someone else knows where I'll be)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

if I’m hiking somewhere out of range

FYI, there are satalite messengers that have cheaper monthly costs than a satellite phone (they use text only, no voice calls).

Also there are satellite personal locator beacons that have no monthly fee, so you can just keep one around in your hiking backpack. And press the emergency button if you need help. (You have to register the beacon beforehand to have it ready for use) Downside of these locator beacons compared to a satelite phone/messenger is that you cannot communicate what help you need. (Example: you can't tell them if you got bitten by a venomous snake so they won't know until they get to you and that might be too late)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

I actually got a locator beacon recently.

I can't really justify the cost of a two-way one given how rarely I go anywhere properly remote, but the little one-button boxes make for huge peace of mind. And honestly if I get bitten I'd likley be just as fucked with or without a conversation :D

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

I've recently had to force myself to pay more attention to my phone. I keep putting it down and forgetting it for many hours at a time. I have to get better or one of these days I'm going to have left it outside my home or car, it's only a matter of time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago

I wouldn’t know. That hasn’t happened since I got my first phone in the 90s. It’s always with me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Nah.

I carry a stungun and that's enough for me. My NY resolution is actually to not carry my phone everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago

I do not. I don't feel awkward necessarily just sitting there doing nothing but I also tend to avoid situations where I am like that because I do get bored and impatient fairly easily. I also just don't like phones. I don't do much with mine other than the things I find very useful like calls, text messaging and maps. I much prefer my PC whenever possible.

I'm American, and I'm 40. I didn't have a mobile phone until I was like 19 and didn't have a smartphone until I was probably about 28 or something.

I understand why people would feel awkward without their phones for sure. Especially if that's what they are used to. I used to smoke cigarettes and I remember kinda feeling silly just standing there not smoking after I quit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

I feel weird if I go to the kitchen and don't have a phone with me. Then again, I'm weird, so having a phone with me may not be the issue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

No. I'm an 80s kid. It's kind of nice once in a while to forget it.

I imagine people with their phone in their faces while shopping, walking their dogs, etc. must have max anxiety over even the fleeting thought of not having their precious.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I feel weird if I'm taking a shit and I don't have my phone with me, forget about leaving the house without it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Time to study air freshener first aid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Do you feel weird/anxious if you go outside and don't have a phone with you?

Nope. I sometimes forget my phone at home, no big deal I seldom use it. And even when I don't forget it I have zero social apps or games installed on it, not even email ;)

I only use it to pass phone calls and to manage IDs and finances (and it's only because my banks all require me to use their stupid apps, I would gladly tell them to go funk themselves but I need to be able to access my accounts).

What I never forget and I never hesitate to use whan I have the opportunity is a pocket book, so I always have something to read (without distraction, aka no Internet) and a pocket notebook/pen so I can write stuff (without any distraction, bugs, updates or whatever...) and in both case without any worry about being tracked.

so like its basically social expectation to be on your phone when you are by yourself.

Is it? And then people are surprised they're exhausted, and constantly anxious and/or angry at one another? Doom scrolling is poison for the mind and for the soul. I'd rather look around, or speak with people.

you are missing a lot of information

Do I? Well, so far it has not caused me much issues.

that you might need in case you get lost or something.

When that happens, I ask my way around to people. It sometime is a nice opportunity to start a real conversation ;)

edit: typos and clarification.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I think part of the problem is, because I always carry it, I keep thinking I've forgotten something. Or go to check the time or whatever and remember I don't have it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

I only get as awkward as the distance travelled

I'd be fine going to the mall, bit iffed since I don't have music to accompany me

I'd be damned if I visit hierapolis without my phone on me, fuck knows how I'll get back if I also lose my wallet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Only because I help to take care of my mom so if she calls and I don't answer... That could be bad

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

A bit, I need it for contactless payments as in my country we use eletronic payments for almost everything

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Yes, very anxious. I dread being in any situation where I won't at least have an opportunity to dial for emergency services.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

For the second yes, but mostly because I get lost very easily. The first not really, many people outside are not on their phones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

If you take public transport, everyone is on their phones. Well maybe not exactly on their phone but some are listening to music/podcast via headphone/earbuds that are playing on their phone.

Maybe you live in a rural area and people are less attached, but in cities, everyone is addicted af.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If I take public transport, then I look outside the window.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Hmm, maybe on a bus or train above ground. On a subway, there's nothing besides the dark void of the tunnels.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Maybe you live in a rural area and people are less attached, but in cities, everyone is addicted af

I live in Paris, France (hopefully enough of a city to qualify?) but I'm not 'addicted af' (not at all, for that matter) and neither is my spouse, nor are quite a few of the people we know ;)

That said I also see a lot of people walking looking at their screen, bicycling looking at their screen, driving and looking at their screen. And I see a lot of accidents too. I wonder, could there be a link?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

If it's just a local trip, I don't really care, as long as I'm confident I just left it somewhere at home. Sometimes feels awkward on the bus because everyone besides the local homeless person or the group riders talking to each other is on their phone, but it's fine.

If I'm somewhere unfamiliar I can get very paranoid as I worry if I dropped it, it got stolen, or if something else happens I wouldn't know where to go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Bring a book or newspaper/magazine. Those people are the minority but it's still fairly common to see people read on the train or at the bus stop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Just walk outside, no.

example: waiting at a bus stop

Yeah, cause it means I left the ticket home.

in case you get lost or something

Yeah, in a weird environment it could help a lot

and just stairing into space, so like its basically social expectation to be on your phone when you are by yourself.

Anyone who thinks it's weird to not be glued to the screen can go fuck themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

No. I usually read books anyway, and i tend to forget my phone very often. So nothing unusual.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

I haven't had a phone in years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Yes, it is odd these days.