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[–] [email protected] 78 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I've been on bluesky for a while (over a year). My (leftist) bubble was complaining about how boring it was for the longest time. Now I keep seeing people complaining about the influx of the "new" people joining. And here I am complaining about the complainers. Oh, to be a human on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think the decentralized nature and barrier of entry might keep lemmy in the stage of the "good old days" of reddit before all the people flooded in and sorta ruined it

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Seems to be mainly because Bluesky is just a better user experience.

Changes in terms of service regarding AI (artificial intelligence), changes in the block feature and the presence of so many bot-like ‘impression zombie’ accounts are viewed negatively by Japanese users

But, X is still incredibly important in Japan and Bluesky isnt a serious threat to it culturally right now.

X is still a major, major news source for Japanese users, so it really won't slow down anytime soon. Newer platforms like Threads or Bluesky really don't have any meaningful adoption or use for brand marketing in Japan — yet

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Anecdotally, a lot moved to Insta or maintain both xitter and insta, but yeah, there's no real inertia to move and, outside of otaku circles, it seems that mastodon and the fediverse are basically unknown.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm surprised that the article doesn't mention Misskey. It's a Federated platform that connects with Mastodon and the like, and has close to a million users. After Mastodon it's the most active platform in the Fediverse, and owes most of its popularity to Japanese users.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago

Not surprising, they are trying to redirect people on bluesky not on the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

they are basically running a huge marketing campaign and a few halfwits on the fediverse are promoting a 'competing' platform.

nothing new under the sun.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I saw a lot of bizarre shit from there through my federated Mastodon instance…

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

what do you mean reasons other than us politics? do other kinds of reasons even exist?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Here we are on the Fediverse. And Mastodon exists. Why, therefore would we BLuEsKy?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can bridge them together and call it a day. Otherwise, presumably because a bunch of the interesting people who left Twitter are there and not on Masto.

I mean, don't ask questions you don't want to hear the answers to, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A friend convinced me, since they are on BSKY, to get an account. I don't really get the format of Xitter/BSKY/Masto. I tend to hang here mostly, and on Pixelfed but less so. Same disappointment on my part from those who can't leave FB/IG/Reddit because 'that's where all the cool kids are'. So yeah, I may open the app from time to time (month to month), but BSKY is not for me.

Note: We had a guy in town called MudMan, built a labyrinth some years back in a local park.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Like, was that his legal name? Because man, that's ballsy.

Anyway, I mostly agree with you, I am more at home here than on all the microblog platforms. I do feel Bsky does a better job at being that than Masto. Masto is insular and man, I hate to say it, but the way its firehose "Home" feed works convinced me that you need at least some options to handle post sorting beyond raw chronological. I don't hate it, but if I wanted a social network entirely predicated on arguing about Twitter I'd be on Twitter (and for people in denial about the popularity of their open source alternative we have the Linux forums here, so I'm good there, too).

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The Bluesky user experience is lightyears ahead of Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Cool, how do we convinced the Masto devs of this apparent fact?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

We tried. They ignore the vast majority of feedback given to them.

The Mastodon user experience really needed to be simplified greatly to attract Twitter users, because what's a platform without other users on it to connect to? At this point I feel as if they may have blown their chance.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Cuz believe it or not, people tend to use microblogging platforms to connect with others in a specific niche, and mastodon currently doesnt have the userbase to host an account focused on most niches.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

I would love to see more Japanese moving over to Bluesky. I've effectively moved there, but can't really leave Twitter because I follow a lot of Japanese game devs there, and they don't have a strong reason to leave like Americans do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

More bluesy ads?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m curious to see what gets promoted in Japan. BlueSky’s discover feed in the US is fairly politics-heavy right now since a lot of the new users have been fleeing X’s MAGA swamp.

I have no problem with political posts, but I’m hungry for some more organic variety. If I want variety I have to put in a lot of manual work to find people and topics to follow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It’s similar in JP.

The discover feed isn’t anywhere near the “for you feed” on X, so the experience isn’t super personalised and gravitates towards us politics, as that’s the most popular thing on the platform (similarly to lemmy).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Lemmy /all is basically memes, tits, and articles about crazy Trump shit.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Remember kids, Jack Dorsey still owns BLUESKY, and if anyone is trying to tell you he doesn't, they're lying.

Dorsey is THE founder of BLUESKY, and is it's largest shareholder, even though he is no longer on the board, and went through the theater of closing his BLUESKY account, he will have the say in pretty much everything, not the least of which, which fascist Elon Musk clone, BLUESKY is sold to, when of course it eventually it will be.

Fool me once.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Maybe Jack will sell bluesky to elon again for 50b and create another network called "freebird", lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

The ultimate grift

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Then definitely get sued by the washed up people still touring as Lynyrd Skynyrd even though none of them are original members

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Elonite will buy this one too and name it PhoenX

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Do you have a source for the “largest shareholder” thing? I’m having a hard time finding anything about that.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

This user is spamming the same comments about this on every post about Bluesky and their sources are "trust me bro I hate Jack"

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bluesky has exactly the same monetization and profitability issues twitter did, if anyone tries to tell you differently they're lying. Sooner or later Bluesky will fatten a sufficient crop of highly engaged users and run out of venture capital runway and be forced to look for someone to buy the platform. There's no way around this.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Fuck off with this unhinged, unsupported rant. Prove it or stop posting it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Jack Dorsey still owns BLUESKY, and if anyone is trying to tell you he doesn't, they're lying.

But Mr Dorsey is no longer part of the team behind it, having stepped down from the board in May 2024. He deleted his account altogether in September. It is now run and predominantly owned by chief executive Jay Graber as a US public benefit corporation.

You sure about that?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

If you are wondering how bluesky is gaining so much traction that's how. ADS.

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