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[–] [email protected] 153 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

All ~~Of Apple’s~~ Foldable ~~i~~Phone ~~Prototypes~~ Have Visible Creases

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

German renowned institute "Stiftung Warentest" just tested two foldables (both Samsung I think) and had them 50.000 times folded and unfolded (they build machines to ~~torture~~ test stuff) and reported no creases.

50.000 times is over four years for 32 uses every day (twice every wake hour). Would be more than sufficient for a normal user think.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

All ~~Of Apple’s~~ Foldable ~~i~~Phon~~e Prototyp~~es Have Visible Creases

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't get the obsession over the crease, things that fold generally have creases. As long as it's not distorting things (which IME it doesn't and is hardly noticeable when in use anyways) it's fine

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

This is Apple; they value different things than most people… sometimes warranted, results in offering a much better experience, and pushes everything forward (see MagSafe -> Qi2 for recent example), other times they’re just regarded as late adopters. The detraction of visual aesthetics from folding crease is apparently one of such things that they care about.

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I'm shocked that Apple didn't just make the crease more obvious and consider it a design element and advertise it as something the consumer wants.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago

We invented the crease.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

Only Apple has the courage to give you a crease.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean for all the things you can meme on Apple for, releasing products for the sake of releasing something isn’t something they’re known for. See Air Power.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

That'll come out. Good thing I bough the optional $400 i...ron.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah just like the notch and dynamic island. They even brought the notch to Macbooks since Apple thinks it makes their brand look more uniform.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 weeks ago (37 children)

They are trying to make foldable iPhones because everyone else is making a foldable phone, but have they stopped and asked themselves if people want and need a foldable?

I have yet to see a real use case for something like a Samsung Z flip, and carrying a bulky Z fold phone in my pocket only to be able to have a tablet once in a while and watch a movie is not interesting enough.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do I need a foldable phone? No. Do I like the idea of owning a phone that is actually small enough to be used with one hand and can fit anywhere? Yes. Besides, closing it to end a call is very cool.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

The ones I have seen in stores are still too long to be used with one hand or fit comfortably into a pocket. My Pixel 7a is about the biggest I can use one-handed, and even then there is awkwardness.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Most Androids have a one-handed mode, where it shrinks the display into a corner, so you can reach everything with your thumb.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it be better to just, y'know, cut out the free space around it?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

you mean having a small phone in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

I miss small phones

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have a Z flip and while it's far from perfect, foldable flip phones are great and I'd choose them over a same-spec regular phone every day. Much more convenient to carry in my pocket compared to a slab and basically having an included tripod for photos is pretty nice as well.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I want a foldable phone.

Phones have become larger abd flatter over the years, and they're just uncomfortable to have in my pocket. A foldable phone will solve this issue.

I didn't buy one yet due to not believing the tech is there yet. Screens are very scratchable and the battery life is poor.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I want a flip phone.

I still think the Game boy Advance SP's design was peak. Lightweight, compact, and very distinct. It looked sleek enough to not look like a toy, where I was using it in the office and nobody would bat an eye.

Give me that with a phone. Im not interested in being a first buyer or spending money for that novelty. But id happily use a foldable the moment they become as reliable as these tablet phones.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My wife loves her flip. I personally don't like them, yes there is crease right where it folds and over time it will make your phone stop working. We just replaced hers after months of her dealing with the phone glitching. But she does enjoy it and requested getting another flip phone.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly a foldable smartphone should be 2 touchscreens with a hinge if there’s at all any risk of a bendy screen breaking more easily or otherwise being inferior to that.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

My wife loves her flip. She just upgraded from the 4 to the 6 and the creaae is barely visible when in use

She uses it a lot for videocalls and she folds it to use it as a tripod, and also being able to use the good camera to take selfies is a great use case

She also loves that it fits on most of her pants when folded, usually women's pants have very small pockets.

That phone is not for me, but I can definitely attest to real use cases

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

carrying a bulky Z fold phone in my pocket only to be able to have a tablet once in a while and watch a movie is not interesting enough.

It suits my needs perfectly though! You can take my folding phone out of my cold dead hands

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

I want a flip design. Or women’s clothing with pockets large enough to fit my current phone. Whichever is easier. Seems to be the folding phone at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There have been plenty of fads over the lifespan of the smartphone market. E.g. curved edge screens. I think curved screens are another and Apple is right to ignore it. There's too many compromises required for a foldable and not much benefit to be worth it.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

My personal theory for the curved edges is, that samsung just wanted to prevent cheap off brand replacement screens.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mine is that they wanted it to stand out, compared to all the other phones with flat screens at the time, especially with all the design clones.

You would look at it and go "oh that phone looks funny, must be a Samsung".

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

I think part of the reason was to look good in stores. If you have a non curved and curved phone next to each other playing the demo video, the curved looks waaay more futurostic.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Foldable at least has theoretical benefit, curved screens on a phone are fucking terrible

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

What I don’t understand is why nobody makes a foldable phone where it’s just two flat screens with an invisible bezel along one edge so they fit seamlessly together when fully opened.

It’s not like there’s a use case where you operate the phone half unfolded and require both halves of the screen to be seamlessly connected.

If the flexing feature wasn’t a gimmick and there was an actual use case for a foldable pocket iPad, someone would have released a phone like the Kyocera Echo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyocera_Echo to commercial success.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

not invisible, but the Surface Duo line was pretty much that.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (16 children)

I’d tolerate a crease to have an ipad on my pocket

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have an iPad mini and enormous pockets. I'm living the dream.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm pretty perfectionist about some things, but I honestly forget all of the time about this little crease in my phone. I thought I might give a shit before I bought a Motorola Razr last year, and now I often forget that it's a foldable. Imagine if you will, a phone that actually fucking fits in your jean pockets...it's worth the little (often invisible) crease.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Imagine if you will, a phone that actually fucking fits in your jean pockets

Size issue. My jean pockets can fit a whole tablet.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Whatever they do, when they release it the have to call it the iFold!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

They're all so desperate for an excuse to increase the price further, and I don't know anybody who wants this.

We're already at over 6 inch for phones. It's plenty big enough. If I want to see something on a bigger screen, I'll use a device with a bigger screen.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

As someone who reads a lot on the go folding phones are AMAZING My eyes never felt so good and my pockets so light. That being said it broke after three months of use when I dropped it face first while closed. If they where more durable or repairable I’d definitely go back

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know anybody who wants this.

Just because you don't personally know them doesn't mean they don't exist. There's very obviously a large market for them or Samsung wouldn't be in the 5th generation with competition from Google, Huawei, OnePlus, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I want a slide out keyboard like on my G1.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Soon we'll have tablet sized phones that fold multiple times. lol

Edit: Friends, i have bad news...

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