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[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I remember really enjoying How I Met Your Mother when it was airing. I tried for a rewatch recently and only made it a few episodes in because I was so disinterested. It felt empty, and the humor wasn't hitting. I think it's a combination of I've changed (I've aged out of the "20-something singles fool around in a fantasy version of NYC" demographic) and TV has evolved (good comedy shows are no longer just goofy hijink situations and setups for one-liners).

So instead I rewatched Archer season one (same era as HIMYM) and fortunately that one still slaps.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh man. So many and so much. Most of the "comedy" from the 80s, 90s, early 2000s is unwatchable. Older movies are sometimes straight up disgusting. I think it's a sign for how we grow as a society to be more aware of the sexism, racism and other forms of disrespect that has been sold as comedy or just as "normal". I consume much more consciously and through a more meta lense. For reference: I'm turning 40 this year

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I like to watch those old shows because they are reminders that we really have made significant progress in my lifetime.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Primary source materials, really. A great window into the past.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I tried to rewatch John Tucker Must Die as something to have on in the background the other night, and wooow did that not hold up. I only made it to where they give him estrogen (which is insane and terrible) and he starts acting like a stereotypical "girl on her period" before I bailed. So many of the movies targeted at teenagers and young adults in that era are so bad. They went all in on punching down, and the amount of rape and sexual assault is wild in retrospect.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There are so many examples of anti trans sentiment in older comedy. Just about all of them hinging on the "you can always tell" myth and/or highlighting how obviously wrong and confused the poor trans people must be. For someone whose only exposure to trans people was that for a long time, I can't begin to say how damaging and limiting that was.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's just a lot of anti trans stereotypes in media that I tolerated before. It's a lot harder to turn a blind eye to it when people use the same misunderstandings to try and tell me I'm sick and confused and bad for just being myself these days

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Old media has become such a minefield because there's just so much awful stuff that went over my head at the time. I'm scared to recommend anything that I haven't rewatched/reread in the past few years.

It wasn't all bad, though. One of my favorite TV shows is Babylon 5, a 90's sci-fi that I watched as it aired but hadn't seen again until late last year. All I really remembered were the cool space battles and devious political maneuvering, but it turned out to also be an incredibly progressive show. One of the main characters is first introduced while wearing robes that appear to have been partially made from a trans pride flag!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I quit smoking pot and no longer enjoy the Spin Doctors. Well, that's half true. I heard them straight one day and decided if that's the kind of thing I like when I'm high, I should quit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Well said, Little Miss. You can’t be wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I can no longer make it through a show with a laugh track. They just spoil the flow.

While they don’t always ruin the thing, so many old shows, movies, and music have a ton of blatant racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. sprinkled in that makes it less enjoyable. South Park’s Chef Aid album has a song that is a combo of Crystal Method, Ozzy, DMX, and I think Wu Tang called Nowhere to Run. It is pretty awesome, except for DMX inserting a few homophobic lines. That asshole ruined a great song!

Overall I notice mean jokes and cruel humor, which is still around to some extent but far less often without the person making the joke clearly an asshole. Stuff like Mel Brooks that included some humor about groups that were frequently mocked, but in a way that is mostly self aware parody, aged pretty well.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If I were to watch Dragon Ball Z now, I'd probably drop the series. I still remember it fondly, but it's too slow.

The first two seasons of the Pokémon anime aged well for me. Individual games, too. But the series as a whole felt from an "I know all 386!" to "...it's a Tentaquil".

Chrono Trigger went from "it's okay, it's fun" to "...I spent my whole life underrating it, didn't I?" So did Final Fantasy VI.

Same deal with Dostoyevsky. I guess you need some maturity to understand things.

Baudelaire, though? Hard pass.

I still love 1984 and Animal Farm, but I want to drown 90% of the muppets talking about them.

I can't stand Legião Urbana any more. Pink Floyd on the other hand aged well, so did Nenhum de Nós.

To be honest I was never too much into movies. There's one or another thing that I like (Modern Times, 8 1/2, The Shining), but it's mostly unchanged.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I think that's what Dragon Ball Z Kai was trying to solve, the ridiculous pacing.

Granted, the pacing sucked back then too. I remember it taking years to get to the event where Goku finally went super Saiyan. That whole Namek saga dragged on for far too long with nothing actually happening.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

10 episodes for Namek to blow up "in five minutes". That's a whole season for some shows. Dragonball Abridged is the true canon for me.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Gremlins, watching it as an adult I realized it is not suitable for young kids 😅

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Man... I remember having fond memories of it. Plus, sort of a Christmas flick. So come winter break, I turn it on for my eight year old. I get to cooking dinner and about 45 minutes in, he's shaking from it. He slept in our room for the first time in years that night. And the next night. And the next.

Literally just told his mom he's still scared of gremlins. This will be one of the parenting regrets.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Like hell it isn't. I watched that as a young kid and it's been a favorite ever since.

It is the movie that led to the creation of the PG-13 rating, though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

@[email protected] I think it is a cautionary tail for people when they reach 40: don’t eat late or something bad will happen… monsters or… INDIGESTION 😱😱😱😱

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

CBS laugh tracks are like nails on a blackboard to me now.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Watched Beetlejuice with the kids last night. Not as funny as I remember, and they weren't laughing either.

OTOH, we all thought The Lost Boys was still pretty cool.

Blazing Saddles next?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago

Beetlejuice was never funny, so much as it was fun and weird.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Blazing Saddles still holds up

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Blazing saddles was written with the golden rule of offensive comedy: don’t punch down or up, punch in all directions.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

gilmore girls

after a few re-watches i realized what a terrible person lorelai is, making it hard to watch

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The show Psych used to be a favorite of mine. When rewatching it recently, there's a string of episodes a few seasons in that are just straight up all racial stereotypes

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's interesting. I rewatch psych (as my comfort show) all the time and couldn't really think of anything egregious. Mind sharing which episodes?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I watched tons of anime. Now everything feels like a redo of something from years before and it’s hard to get into anything. I feel the same about movies.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Comedy in general. Others have given specific examples of things that are discriminatory, including racism and sexism.

On the one hand, it's sad to realize that your old favorite movie is no longer that, but when you realize why I think it's actually uplifting. You can feel that you've learned something, you've improved as a human being, that you care more about society.

And because there are many genres other than comedy, it's not like you lost all of your favorite movies.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I've avoided rewatching Ace Ventura Pet Detective due to the transphobia

I recall in Boston Legal, William Shatner's character said he liked Trump (this was before his presidency) and that has made me less interested in a rewatch

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What happened in Ace Ventura Pet Detective?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There's a woman who is revealed to be trans and a bunch of guys start dry-heaving upon learning this information

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention Ace Ventura's too-long scene of showering, burning his clothes, using a plunger to make himself throw up etc. So you kissed someone you didn't know was trans, grow up.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Practically the whole movie is a trans joke. I rewatched it years ago and was so bummed out.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I never got the puking scene at the end of Ace Ventura as a kid. I still don't really do. Always loved that movie but that is just too much.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

It's an homage (or whatever you would call it) to The Crying Game iirc.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was implying that all of those men had made out with her.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

superhero movies. when the first Tobey Maguire Spiderman premiered, it was magical. i had wished for this exact thing for years.

now i can't stand any of them. they're cringe af, like watching a bunch of toddlers play pretend grown up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Other way around for me. I used to find "stupid humor" obnoxious, but now I can appreciate it better.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I rewatched the usual suspects for the upteenhundreth time, I think it lost a little bit of its magic. Michael Baldwins character is just a bit too camera hungry and angry for me, some of the scenes have just lost their luster. It's still a 9/10, but after 20 years I think it's no longer my 10/10 go to for a guaranteed love rewatch movie. It hurts. Have I become jaded?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I haven't seen it in so long, I only remember one thing about it. Yup. THAT thing. We should look it up one of these days. Thanks for the reminder!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I used to enjoy average Bollywood movies but now I have realized it was full of stupidity, cringe, fascist propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I have problems with a lot of scripted television now when I used to love it as a kid.

Hell, I have problems with some parts of TNG because there science has progressed so much since then. THE EXOCOMS ARE SPECIAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE SAPIENCE, THEY AREN'T LIFE!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I used to enjoy The Six Million Dollar Man as a kid. Tried watching it a few years ago but I could stand the high-pitch music that seemed to always be playing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

It's hard line between classic and temporary. Anything that follows trend hard usually doesn't last the test. Things that try to relive the past usually don't last.

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