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With the number of people concerned about privacy, it is a wonder why chrome is even popular.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The best time to switch to Firefox was 5 years ago. The second best is today.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Oops, I switched 15 years ago,

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I switch when it was Phoenix, then switch again when it was Firebird, and finally switch when it become Firefox

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

you win Firefox!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I went straight from Mozilla Navigator to Firefox 1.0.

Tabs were such a crazy new thing back then. You would show tabbed browsing to someone (rather than opening new windows) and they thought you were a wizard. IE5 didn’t have tabs, so nerds moved to Mozilla/Firefox. Then IE6 came out but still didn’t have tabs. By the time IE7 came out, I’d had tabbed browsing for 5+ years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Noob. I switched in 2006 - 17 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I cannot be 100% certain but I'm confident I was using it not long after the 1.0 release. That'd put me at 2004. 19 years!

Although I did briefly switch over to Chrome when it was new and fast. Then switched back when Firefox had a major optimization pass.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The early Chrome was crazy fast when it had none of the bloat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/nCgQDjiotG0

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I had to pee!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Google has a web-browser?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, that's 3rd best at most, according to the data above. Sorry, I don't make the rules!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

10 to 15 years ago, myself. Don't remember exactly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use Firefox since it's release. It was never bad. I don't get all the Chrome users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It has a pretty severe memory leak issue during the period where Chrome siphoned off most of its users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I used it since netscape navigator XD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it have native dark pages. Why I use brave. Would use Firefox but it's glaring white

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Firefox has dark mode.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Funnily enough - this article is 3 years old

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Firefox is a weird buggy mess that constantly freezes.

This is definitely not normal, Firefox never freezes for me. May be worth checking that out, especially your extensions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox + Ublock Origin blows Google Chrome out of water.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In adittion to this make sure to disable the telemetry that's on by default. If you want even better protection from fingerprinting etc, use arkenfox/librewolf (librewolf being preconfigured fork of firefox)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd also recommend disabling Normandy in Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most people aren’t concerned about privacy outside of places like here and Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With Chrome killing ad blocking, they'll quickly care

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They won't. The vast majority aren't using any kind of ad-blockers in the first place or Google would go out of business.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmmm, on the bright side, with lemmy going mainstream maybe some of this culture (including privacy and FOSS) becomes more and more openly discussed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As much as I love Lemmy I don't see it going mainstream :/
It's too weird for the general user

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I agree. Arguably reddit isn't even mainstream, and it is exponentially larger than Lemmy now and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

I'm really loving Lemmy, but it is not even remotely a factor if we are having a conversation about things that are mainstream enough to reflect popular opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

IMO the thing is that people don't care about their privacy. Sure, some people around here do, but your average person owns an Alexa, has a FB/Instagram account and constantly posts their location, uses the same password on many sites, uses TikTok, doesn't block cookies, etc etc etc.

Most people don't actually care. Some claim they do, but then can't even be bothered to stop using Instagram etc because of the "inconvenience"... So do they really care?

Some companies (Apple, etc) push their products under a narrative around safety and security, and people will repeat that point as a way to justify a decision they already made, but if they actually cared, they would be doing other things too. But they don't.

The number of us who do actually care about privacy and security is actually very small.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole Reddit debacle has really made me rethink all my services. I recently installed duck duck go and still getting used to it, so not quite sure if I'm ready to make another drastic change.

I used to love Firefox in 2006 or so, but got Chrome when it was released and forgot about Firefox. I think I'll open a tab in my chrome browser for the Firefox page now...this is how I remind myself to delve deeper into stuff later. Thanks for the inspiration, everyone. Google has irked me ever since removing the Don't Be Evil mantra.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Firefox has a super simple way to import everything from your Chrome install. And from what I can tell it has every feature plus more. Was very easy for me to switch. I was actually inspired to try it as my daily driver since Chrome hogs an uncomfortable amount of RAM on my laptop

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

i use 5 browsers 3 of them are based on firefox

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's ironic that there are over 60 blockable elements and such over Privacy Badger and Ublock origin on that page.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

With the number of people concerned about privacy

That number appears to be very small, all things considered. Out of everyone I know, literally one person cares about privacy. My mother. She will even go as far as to only use her first initial online instead of her name if she can get away with it. However, she uses Chrome all the time because she doesn't understand that your browser also tracks you.

I think that's what it comes down to. A mixture of lack of public interest, and lack of public awareness about tracking/privacy in general. If people can't immediately see how having their data harvested will inconvenience/hurt them, they simply don't care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chrome does have a use, namely Selenium and automation.

I'm guilty of having Chrome on my PC, as I need to nerf over my favourites to Firefox.

Firefox is my browser of choice on my Google Pixel 7, but then again no doubt it makes little difference.

I just choose to use a VPN, so any targeted adverts are blocked regardless of the profile built up from my browsing habits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

You can use the Gecko webdriver for Selenium

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have too use Edge at work. Is Edge also implementing this shit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

At work I guess you only do work related stuff, so at the end of the day it's only work-related data that the browser has access to. Why would it matter to you?

99.9% of my the personal browsing I do is in firefox both on phone and desktop, but on work laptop I use Edge because 1. the work web-apps seem to favour chromium based browsers and 2. it's not my data so I don't really care about the privacy of my company's data, they have a data privacy officer to worry about that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what are some necessary addons besides ublock?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Dark reader - for dark mode everywhere

Decentreyes - for avoiding CDNs that track you

Sponsorblock - to skip sponsored parts on youtube

Enhancer for youtube - for a nicer overall experience, specific quality setting by default, scroll wheel volume, and more

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TOR browser is built off of Firefox and is even more private.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This kid is a dumb pile of shit. I recommend everyone block him.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Seems someone forgot their meds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

With the number of people concerned about privacy, it is a wonder why chrome is even popular.

It's no wonder. It's because people aren't actually concerned about privacy.

If you ask someone if they're "concerned about privacy" many people will of course say yes. If you follow up that question with "what are you willing to do about it", you'll find that the answer is a resounding "not a God damn thing". If they were they would spend 3 minutes on Google looking for an alternative browser that works even better than Chrome but without the privacy invasions.

A browser is the low-hanging fruit on the "do-you-care-about-privacy meter". It's the one step with no sacrifices and the highest increase in privacy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I used chrome for less then 1 day ..it always sucked

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Chrome just werks