kingofras

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I’m the same, I don’t care about the karma aspect, I do care when it is strategically used by hidden interests to keep certain content ranked lower and push content they like up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s a nice analogy.

I wouldn't worry as much about Alt-Right conservatives here - they tried but couldn't get a foothold, and after being defederated from all instances eventually collapsed internally, and went to Truth Social. Here, we ironically have much more to worry about from the Alt-Left that uses identical patterns of behaviors, just ostensibly on the "left".

I’d love to learn more about this story. Who is alt-left? How do they behave?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Cool, I think I understand it better now.

So an r/TheDonald situation on Lemmy would effectively mean this community can exist forever until it is just lonely sitting by itself defederated from every other instance in the lemmyverse (fediverse?). So it is impossible to basically shut something like that down on a global scale, only to North Korea it. (At which point, as the analogy goes, they are forced to send their soldiers to help with the Russians and find a way to make trouble that way)

I suppose that’s a fair price to pay for decentralisation. Thanks for the responses.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I think it’s clear that the answer to that is not enough, so why don’t you point me towards the nearest library with a Lemmy history section?

 

I’ve been on a journey today trying to understand the fediverse better.

I’ll be mindful to not start bitching about certain instances.

Here’s my example:

Is it technically possible that posts or comments still get downvote-brigaded by an instance that is technically defederated from the instance of the OP?

So let’s say instance A and B are defederated from each other, but both are federated with instance C. After a user from A posts something on C does every user from B get to downvote everything?

I’m trying to determine if the Fediverse has recourse against an r/TheDonald scenario, where one toxic element is allowed to flourish for too long and - in the case with the other site - eventually takes over and destroys everything.

If this debate has been had somewhere else, please feel free to point me there, otherwise I’d love to understand this better.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ty. That stuff should be available in mobile clients too. It could definitely be better visually represented and contain a reason and a defederated since date or more.

Also an explanation that addresses my other example about downvote brigading a tertiary instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Thx. I saw the rule. @ mods I’m fine if you want to remove this.

I think federation needs to be better explained possibly here either with a sticky or sidebar. And a diagram of who we are federated with and not that’s live updated would be helpful too.

Thanks for all the work you guys do

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ok thanks. I’m a little confused by what that means for voting. Is it possible that anti authoritarian posts or comments still get downvote- brigaded by an instance that is technically defederated from the instance of the OP?

So let’s say instance A and B are defederated from each other, but both are with instance C. User from A posts something on C and every B user still gets to downvote everything to oblivion right?

So .ml is effectively r/TheDonald and we can’t do much against brigading?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Ok, perhaps I don’t. Can you explain what people mean when they call for “defederating from” an instance then?

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27423053

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