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[–] [email protected] 345 points 11 months ago (23 children)

Elon Musk loves to speak confidently about shit he knows nothing about. This leads to him being a confident speaker on every topic... I just wish we could figure out a way to shut him up.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The French had a pretty good way of shutting up insufferable rich asshats.

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[–] [email protected] 264 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Yes the compiler/interpreter can figure it out on the fly, that's what we mean by untyped languages. And as stated both have their merits and their faults.

Elon doesn't know what the words mean and just chimes in with his AI future BS.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

Yes the compiler/interpreter can figure it out on the fly, that's what we mean by untyped languages.

Are there untyped languages? You probably meant 'dynamically typed languages'.

But even statically typed languages can figure out most types for you from the context - it's called 'type inference'.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most of my code is untyped. First I type it, then I realize it's all wrong and use backspace to untype it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Assembly probably? So low level you kinda just play with bits. That's all I can think of for an untyped language. Everything else I'm aware of is dynamically or statically typed

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[–] [email protected] 207 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Remember when people were calling this dummy the "real life Tony Stark"? Lol.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I was one of those. In my defense, 2012-2015(ish) he really was doing cool things. Tesla and Space X were super innovative and brought optimism. Then a time traveler stepped on a bug, the whole Thailand pedophile fiasco happened and it went downhill from there. Now we have yokes, dumb turn signals and the whole cybertruck, not to mention removing ultrasound sensors to save a few cents and the whole Twitter debacle. At least space X is still somehow unfucked?

In case it helps... I'm sorry.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 11 months ago (1 children)

he really was doing cool things.

He was buying cool things

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The thing is after Peter Thiel made him a multi-billionaire against his best efforts, he did actually put that capital into industries that desperately needed someone to prove to the boomers that you could, and should, make money in them.

There's a whole lot to say about his credit stealing, ego, and the system itself, but the fact remains he does have an eye for talent (that he can exploit for gain)

So, sure, he was just the bankroll, but that doesn't mean the companies didn't desperately need that.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think the problem was he started to believe his own hype that he was a super-genius that knew everything about everything.

I mean I don't know the nitty gritty details of building an electric car or building rockets. But neither does Elon Musk. Which would be fine except that he tries to talk about these things like he does understand all of the details. Nobody knows everything about everything, it's only an idiot that tries to act like he does.

But then he tries talking like he's an expert in a field I am familiar with and it's like... there's points people could make on this subject, but that's not one of them.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

I accept and believe your apology. Just pop yourself in the nose once, and we're totally square buddy.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago

its amazing how elon was once so milquetoast and inoffensive that he was a guest on the big bang theory and then he was like you know whats good? nazis.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What you mean? He is!

The netflix adaptation..... Lmao

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

At least around 2015 when SpaceX landed a rocket for the first time, it really does look like he's the real life Tony Stark. People change, sometimes for the worse.

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's kinda amazing how someone can work so hard to sabotage their own public image.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Musk wants Twitter to fail. He bid on it for a laugh and when his bid was accepted he tried to get out of it.

They made him buy it and he's been butthurt ever since. He wants everyone involved to suffer, because then the decision to hold him accountable was a bad decision.

He doesn't give a fuck about people, or technology, or even the money he sunk on it. So it looks like he's shaving his eyebrows to spite his face. It doesn't hurt, so he doesn't care.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

4D chess isn't real. Sometimes, rich and powerful people do dumb things. Sometimes they're not very smart and have a visible personality disorder. Searching for an underlying clever motive is an exercise in your intelligence - not theirs.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think "they made me buy it so I'm breaking it" is really a 4D move. It's more like a 4th grade move.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

"So" is the mistake. He's not breaking it on purpose. He's just a fucking idiot. He is exactly as smug and incompetent as he appears.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He's not hurting the people who made him buy it.

If he really wanted to be rid of it he could have instead done nothing. Put someone in charge with the impossible task of "make this profitable in 5 years" and then shut it down after 5 years because "it's not profitable".

Showing his ass to the world and ruining future potential for investment by looking like an incompetent idiot is not a "secretly intelligent move".

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What? The people who made him buy it got paid already. I'm sure they're laughing every time they see it drop in value.

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's the kinda guy whose only programming experience is learning Python for 3 hours 6 years ago, yet he thinks he's the programming god.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

musk the kind of guy that if he said Java is here to stay, I would start learning another language.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I constantly feel the need to argue with this dumb fuck and his 99% wrong opinions. I usually have to take a step back, remember it's not worth it, and then move on. It would be a great help if I had a Firefox add-on that precedes all of musk's tweets with "retard weighing in: ", just as a reminder that he's also allowed a point of view, despite his mental issues.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago

I remember someone once created a firefox addon that made all of Trump's tweets look like they were drawn with crayon. Someone should make a new version of that for Musk.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Pretty sure you‘re only using the r-bomb and „mental issues“ in a joking way but its kind of not funny.

Musk is a spoiled, unempathetic, overhyped idiot who claims to be autistic… perfect example that autistic people can be cretins as well.

But a lot of autistic people are getting called the r-word and its not ok. Mental (health) issues are not a stigma. They are okay and normal. Being an asshole isnt normal or okay though.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

For the curious, this is about as easy as it gets for proper type inference. You could leave out the one or other thing (most prominently, polymorphism), but that kind of stuff would hardly qualify as even a toy example.

I won't claim that J. Random Hacker will have issues understanding it -- it's a neatly tied bundle of necessary complexity without any distracting parts (like efficiency), if you sit down with the thing (ideally starting the whole series from the beginning) you'll be able to grok it (and have learned a lot). However, understanding HM isn't the same as being able to extend it, which includes proving soundness of the system, that kind of stuff is a specialised field within a specialised field within academia with more open questions than answered ones. The reason Rust doesn't have HKTs? Because their interaction with lifetimes is insufficiently understood. Those kinds of questions can easily start 20+ years of research only to be answered with "yep that's inherently unsound/uncomputable/whatever".

Oh, EDIT, forgot: AI-enabled typing is obviously a completely braindead idea. I don't need a second lazy, impatient, hubristic idiot looking at my code, I need something to catch mistakes. Something deterministic, rule-based, pure unerring logic. Which is exactly what type systems are and do.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Elon what the fuck are you talking about

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Musk's greatest innovative genius is finding new ways to be annoying.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago

That's a load bearing "done right".

[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Quick, somebody teach this man JavaScript.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Oh look, a dipshit who never wrote a line of code.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Well, according to the first biography about him, he was coding quite a lot in Zip2 and perhaps also some in early PayPal. Bit the code was supposedly hastily written and very bad.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I tend to think people shit on Musk more than they should, but holy shit does it bug me when a CEO talks about engineering problems with such bravado.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software & Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from his cars and rockets.

Rod Hilton about Elon Musk.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The guy is an idiot who LITERALLY got fired for incompetence as CEO.in the past. He is a scammer and should be treated as such, so no, people aren't shitting too much on him. If anything, they aren't shitting enough, there are still way too many oblivious fan boys out there that think he is a genius. He's not.

Anything he says that makes sense engineering wise usually comes from someone on his team, anything else is just outrageously stupid, and clearly from his "genius mind" like this blurb/cert/tweet whatever the hell its supposed to be called.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

1 == "1"

It's not that hard

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago

I didn't know we even had dynamic compiled languages but a quick google search tells me Lisp counts. Wonder if Musk actually knew that or if this screenshot is taken mid dunning-kruger.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago

Jesse, what the hell are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

starting to see why twitter breaks every day since elon bought it

elon is basically chip morehead from the chipadmin episode of sales guy vs web dude

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

Musk being an assumer (note how he's vomiting certainty on future events) doesn't surprise me a tiny bit.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

This the new live action Joseph and Jotaro?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Not that it will matter in the AI future

that statement makes so little sense I feel like Mount stupid does not give it justice .

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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