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[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I stopped using airbnb long ago.... hotels can be around the same price too

[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Hotels are often cheaper in destination areas, and you get the convenience of fucking room service. In a lot of destination areas, home ownership has rapidly declined in favor of permanent AirBnB rentals. Because why charge $3000 in rent per month to a tenant, when you can charge $350 per night and have AirBnB guests for 20 nights a month?

But it also means Airbnb has landlords getting even more greedy. Cleaning fees are often used as a way to directly increase the rental cost. Requirements for guests are increasingly restrictive. And the nightly rent is often so exorbitant that you can literally get a hotel and room service for cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's gone full-circle like the whole situation with streaming services becoming cable. Funny how the world works so similarly in different places.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

it's almost as if enshittification is a cycle!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

The ultimate inevitable destination of capitalism. Enshrining greed in fact does NOT boost innovation.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

I have priced out Airbnb vs. hotels quite a few times over the past few years at my spouses request. I have never stayed at any of them as they have always been much more expensive for shittier accomodations. It simply doesn't make any sense to me.

This past christmas, renting 2 hotel rooms at a nice hotel was cheaper than the worst dive of an Airbnb near my in-laws.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You get to fuck room service? Where do you stay?!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

At the Fuck Hotel in Fukuoka.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've been, don't believe the hype. Horse sashimi was delicious though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Oh, you went to that place where they have the horse walk up to the table and slice you off a hunk, very nouveau riche!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Brb, visiting Japan.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And you're not expected to do half the laundry, the dishes, and still pay a cleaning fee.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Obviously I won't trash the room, but if I'm paying a cleaning fee, I will not be cleaning...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The places I've stayed are just:

  1. Put used sheets on the floor
  2. Put dishes in the dishwasher
  3. Take out the trash

I do that anyway while staying there, except for the sheets (takes very little time), and I would probably do it anyway even if not asked (though I'd keep the sheets on the bed) because that's just common decency imo.

When I stay at hotels or rent cars, I do essentially the same thing, and I usually leave a tip because I know the cleaning staff get paid very little.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@sugar_in_your_tea @pezmaker

Same, and they usually don't want me to do anything to the bed. Trash on the way out and didn't be a pig.

There was a very out in the open camera in the living room of an Airbnb that I stayed in once and I really didn't care for it and hadn't noticed it in the listing. But, it was a basement suite of a family's own house and I guess they were just concerned. I started looking for that more specifically but glad to hear Airbnb banned them completely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I think I've only seen a camera inside once or twice, and only in the living room/dining room. Hotels do the same in common areas like hallways and dining areas. It's still not great, but it's at least understandable.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Never used an AirBnB and never plan to. The whole "you have to clean up after yourself" part is a major turnoff for me. I go on vacation to relax, not clean. I rather pay a little bit extra for housekeeping.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

You pay extra at AirBnB to clean up yourself regardless. They all charge a cleaning fee of $100-200. Plus "Fees" if you don't do all of the cleaning yourself. It's total nonsense. The price is more hidden than a damn phone bill.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The whole "you have to clean up after yourself" part is a major turnoff for me.

I mean, yeah you're expected to be respectful of the space you're using. If you make a mess, you're expected to clean it up or pay an extra cleaning fee. There's a really easy way around that though - don't make a mess. Seems reasonable to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right, but hotels don't expect you to take out the trash, wash the towels/bedding, or wash the water cups/ice bucket. Even if you don't make a mess you still often have to do those things on top of the cleaning fee you're paying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Every Airbnb I've ever stayed in doesn't make me do any of that. Obviously if the trash gets full, I'd take it out, but it's never been a requirement. The furthest I've ever had to go with bedding/towels is to remove them from the beds and pile them up on the floor. Similar with dishes, I've only ever had to put them in the dishwasher, never wash them myself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've had the same experience, though I've only used a handful of them. It's definitely worth it for us since we use them for reunions, so there's >20 people staying there and we value the larger gathering areas. I never use them for just us (wife and kids) because it's not really price efficient.

That said, when I start in a hotel, I usually clean up after myself. I know the cleaning staff get paid poorly, so I leave a modest tip and do most of the tidying myself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not making a mess is fine. However, I don't make my bed at home. I don't want to do it when I travel. Messy bedsheets don't bother me. I don't want more responsibility when I travel than I have at home.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

No Airbnb I've ever stayed in has mandated that the beds be made.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

I guess it depends on the area. In France, airbnbs are usually cheaper than hotels (especially if you're 2 or more). Plus having a kitchen means saving quite a lot on food compared to having to eat at restaurants or takeouts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No fucking way when you rent for a month

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

there are there are extended stay hotels with kitchens that can be pretty affordable in some areas