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[–] [email protected] 254 points 2 months ago (5 children)

5 day RTO is a stealth layoff. This is a feature, not a bug.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's like reverse stack ranking. They'll be left with the people that couldn't find another job.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)

and the people who know exactly how to waste time in an office.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's literally what we all do in office. Just sit ans chat. It's country club. Productivity went up during covid.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yup, I waste way more time in the office than at home, and I waste plenty of time at home. Also, the time I don't waste is more productive at home than in the office.

I still value going to the office, but doing it everyday would just kill my soul. I need some time to myself to get stuff done.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I love being able to fold laundry or go on elliptical during calls. Plus the extra sleep and no commute means im waaay friendlier in calls. Everyone wins.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

A.k.a. Twitter and the elon filtering moment

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Brain drain is the perfect way to end monopolies.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago

Yep this has been the modus operandi for businesses who want to reduce workforce without having to pay for layoffs.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Like many companies, they overhired in the last 4 years. Some of these people are due years of severance (my offer listed 2months for every year after 1 year), not to mention the vested stocks and other bonuses granted during this insane hot hire period.

So how do you remove people not loyal to the company? The most hated mandate ever. Amazon is a company that doesn’t need people in the office. This is nothing more than screwing people over.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No rank and file US-based employees at Amazon are getting years of severance. They don't do that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that was a typo and my experience is limited towards the AWS side which is also facing this issue. But the numbers are there, some people have been at Amazon for a decade, so 20 months (if they had MY package of 2mos per year). Amazon was throwing everything at new hires, because they were making bank on their work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So they're not paying severance to employees they fire?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Yes, but they're making people quit instead. They don't need to pay severance to employees who quit because of RTO.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

They are getting severance when terminated, unless for cause. My comment was, this is how they avoid it by forcing people to quit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Quiet firing, if you will.