kirklennon

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

The first Android was made about 1999/2000, I’d read about it in a trade mag just before I was laid off from one company (they provided that trade mag, which is why I know the date). The idea of running Linux for a phone OS was intriguiging at the tomr, as we were doing some Linux testing ourselves.

Android as a company was created in 2003 with no product at all. They started working on a phone operating system in 2005, were acquired by Google, and then had an early prototype Blackberry knockoff in 2006. The iPhone was announced in 2007 so they abandoned the original plans and started making an iPhone knockoff. The first Android phone was released in 2008.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

giant touchscreen

In the 2007 tech press lull between announcement and launch, there was briefly a made up scandal of accusing Apple of using models with really large hands in promotional photos/videos to make the iPhone look smaller than it was. It's wild to think about now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Have you heard of game consoles?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Such an app would violate the App Store rules:

4.2 Minimum Functionality: Your app should include features, content, and UI that elevate it beyond a repackaged website. If your app is not particularly useful, unique, or “app-like,” it doesn’t belong on the App Store.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why not chuck the data when it’s no longer being used, though?

They do. Apple is sending literally trillions of push notifications per year and certainly doesn't want to save them longer than necessary (a useless expense), but the government can also ask that information for a targeted user be retained, going forward from the request, even though it would normally be purged.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (6 children)

The developer of the app sends the push notification through Apple's service. Developers have always been able to encrypt it, at which point it can be decrypted only by their app, but not all developers do this. There's also still limited metadata about the fact that a notification was sent, even if the contents are encrypted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Apple Pay doesn’t increase the business’s cost.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The key thing though is that Apple Pay is still just a credit or debit card. There’s no extra fee for the merchant or customer. It costs the same to process as using the physical card.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

In case you’re not just trolling

At this point I vote we just consider it trolling. The best case alternative is that it's merely aggressively-protected ignorance, and that's not worth engaging with either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

That graphic is really good. I've seen a lot of graphics that try to explain it but most of them make mistakes; that one is surprisingly perfect.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I’ve clearly done far more research than you have

I feel like I've entered some Twilight Zone. You just keep repeating the same absurd claims about something but if you had ever researched it in any capacity you'd know how false those claims are.

No they don’t. The vast majority don’t even accept Apple, Google, or Samsung Pay, credit cards only.

"Apple Pay is accepted at over 85 percent of retailers in the U.S."

Look, it's really simple: If a store accepts contactless cards, it by definition accepts Apple Pay. They are the same thing to the merchant. There are zero merchants that take contactless cards but can't take Apple Pay.

As for costs, a random sampling:

Forbes:

One great benefit of using Apple Pay is that it doesn’t cost business owners anything extra. Payment processors consider it a normal credit card transaction, so you’ll only pay regular card processing fees. The only upfront cost involved might be upgrading your POS terminal.

US Chamber of Commerce:

Once you have the right contactless payment-capable POS, there are no additional fees you, the merchant, will have to pay for using Apple Pay. As a business owner, you will pay the same credit card rates and fees as you would for a card-present transaction.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Have you literally done zero research into this? The vast majority of merchants in the US, and nearly 100% in many other countries, accept Apple Pay. Doesn't that strike you as awfully high if they actually had to sign up for it with Apple? And add an entirely new payment processor to their operations?

Apple is not involved in any capacity with processing Apple Pay transactions when you tap your device in a business. A Visa card loaded on an iPhone is literally just a contactless Visa. Apple Pay = Google Pay = physical contactless card. One single industry-standard protocol.

For web/app transactions, a merchant has to set up Apple Pay explicitly (though it's still actually processed by the same parties as entering the card number) but for in person, they just need contactless payments enabled on their card terminal. No extra steps, parties, or fees.

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