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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There go my hopes and dreams of the whole situation ending up being a good thing for open source and the competition in the AI space.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

Lmao. Microsoft was never going to let that happen.

They looked at the mobile market and see they fucked up, they looked at the browser market and see they fucked up, they look at Google's online presence and see they fucked up, etc.

Sure, their enterprise sector is doing amazing, but they'll want to diversify and maintain a strong public presence for general consumers.

Microsoft saw "Open"AI and started salivating. As far as they're concerned, this is their chance to win big, and they want to control it with an iron grip.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Still could be. Something smells off with this whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is this embrace or extend? I'm not looking forward to extinguish.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

This is extend, embrace would be when they invested in OpenAI as a way to fund them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Isn't Bing in some kind of partnership with Open AI?

Hmmm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It does and Microsoft poured a ton of money into OpenAI. Including offering some of their services exclusively via Azure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From what I've read they didn't pour any money directly, it's all in the form of credit to use azure

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft owns 49% of the for-profit operating company. Maybe they got those or part of those via Azure credits?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

That's exactly what I read

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As far as we know Microsoft has access to some of their IP but not much else. Judging by the output of their own research division they're anxious to replace them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

They have access to the IP and own the compute resources running OpenAI's services.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Sam Altman is joining Microsoft, the tech-giant has announced, ending speculation he might return to OpenAI just 48 hours after his chaotic ousting.

He is considered one of the most influential figures in the fast-growing generative artificial intelligence (AI) space, and his sacking sent shockwaves across the industry.

It sparked an outpouring of support from Silicon Valley bosses, including former Google chief executive Eric Schmidt who called Mr Altman "a hero of mine" and said that he had "changed our collective world forever".

On Friday, when OpenAI announced it was firing Mr Altman, it accused him of not being "consistently candid in his communications with the board, hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities".

On Sunday evening, the board said it "firmly stands by its decision as the only path to advance and defend the mission of OpenAI," according to an internal memo, seen by The New York Times.

Mr Altman testified before a US Congressional hearing to discuss the opportunities and risks created by the new technology and also appeared at the world's first AI Safety Summit in the UK at the beginning of November.


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[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

i think this is all fake to save face by everyone doing AI, if the AI boss is down people will stop investing in AI, and bigtech doesn’t want that, IMO. Right here Microsoft came to save the day but they pretty much saved the whole AI industry.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah. The greatest benefit to Microsoft here is now no competitors can hire him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am cautious to think he’s all that innovative, but rather was the figurehead. He might be able to poach the innovators though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah I doubt he was magic on his own, but if a competitor hired him he would utilise his insider OpenAI knowledge to make day to day decisions that might help a competitor close the gap or supersede OpenAI. Better to pay him millions of dollars a year to keep that knowledge in house and deprive competitors of the opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

ok 🤷 i did write IMO

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

they pretty much saved the whole AI industry

Sam Altman could've vanished from the face of the Earth, and AI would be fine. There are so many big players (including Microsoft) in the game and so many other AI researchers that things would've likely continued going strong.