TheGrandNagus

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Literally none of that goes against what I've said.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Not really true.

And locally-run translation that utilises AI, as well as AI accessibility features for blind users isn't nefarious.

People need to actually look into features before they have a stupid and completely reactionary "it says AI therefore evil" response.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Here is literally no different.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

And they're the only people who can easily do it.

Anybody else needs a new motherboard and RAM. And for those people, they're like "hmmm I can spend $700+ upgrading to Zen5, or I could spend $180 on a 5700X3D, not have to pull my entire PC apart, and get about the same real-world performance because I'll be GPU bottlenecked anyway."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Both the PS5 and Steam deck's CPU architecture are Zen2. So the 5950X is the most modern (Zen3)

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago

I mean, maintaining an instance is a larger job than having a twitter account. I don't think they're all that comparable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you're gaming tbh I'd rather go with Zen4X3D or if you really want to, wait for Zen5X3D. Standard Zen5 isn't really worth it considering the dropping of Zen4 prices IMO

Even with the performance boost of turning up the TDP, you're looking at pretty similar performance to the X3D chips, and in some games that really love cache, still a decent amount worse

I also just upgraded from a 3600, but I did it to a 5700X3D, because it barely cost anything and only required dropping in a new CPU

[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (25 children)

They sell everything they put into laptops, in that market they can't keep up with demand. Similar story for enterprise.

In the DIY desktop market, which this article is about, It's been instilled into everyone to wait for the X3D chips, by basically every reviewer. And for good reason.

Certainly doesn't help that:

  • a Windows 11 bug made performance look over 10% worse than it actually was on release, which is when all benchmarks are done and opinions are set (E: btw this has been fixed, and the fix also helped older CPUs too)

  • AMD decided to massively lower energy usage at the expense of out-of-box performance (I actually love this decision, I'm sick of components getting more and more power-hungry, and I'm sick of a hot stuffy room. Most gaming-focussed reviewers hated it though, which bugged me tbh because they also moan when power usage is high. I think they just like being negative because it drives engagement). At previous-gen TDPs, Zen 5 gains a lot of performance, but that's not how they are benchmarked.

  • the price of Zen 4 has dropped, and the 7800X3D in particular looks compelling to those who might've wanted Zen 5.

  • most DIY PC builders are PC gamers, and what do we need new CPUs for? Most gamers are more GPU bottlenecked right now, especially as people are moving to 1440p, 1440p ultrawide, or 4K. Add to that the fact that there have been very few good PC game releases this year and of course we're in a slump.

  • the only people who can buy a Zen5 CPU and drop it in their machine easily are Zen4 users, who won't see a large uplift and likely won't bother. People with earlier systems are looking at a significant investment - new motherboard and DDR5 RAM, why bother with that when the 5700X3D is such an insanely good value proposition that still won't be bottlenecked unless you're running an insanely good GPU?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Anybody with any nuanced opinion just gets shat on by both

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the UK it works out as 913 USD.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

If you think $700 is bad, it'll be £700 in the UK.

Which is $913.

Also:

  • median household income, UK (2022): £32,400 ($42,265)

  • median household income, USA (2022): $74,580

A PS5 Pro is 26% of the typical UK household monthly income.

A PS5 Pro is 11% of the typical US household monthly income.

The US pricing is bad. The UK pricing is absolutely insane.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You can't scale $700 laptop performance up to 4K 60fps without it being an absolute mess.

You mention the tech being similar, that is true, but upscaling from a, say, 1700p signal to a 4K one is an entirely different beast to 1080p > 4K.

Those "old" games would utterly destroy a $700 gaming laptop. You'd be very lucky indeed to get 60FPS even at low 1080p.

My comment was more about the irrelevancy of consoles once they start getting past the £500 mark, used to be that you'd have a good advantage over a mid-tier PC for about 2 years.

Consoles being vastly better price/perf at the start of the generation and then getting overtaken by PC towards the end has always been the case. Every generation at the start there's alarmism about consoles killing PC gaming, then mid-to-late gen people act as if console gaming is dead. Neither end up happening.

That said, you'd still struggle to build a $700 PC that outperforms a PS5 Pro. You could get reasonably close maybe if you're clever with the budget, though.

Where the PC library is huge, add in Emulation and it's even bigger.

I'm not arguing against PC. I think PC is the better and better value platform. I play on PC exclusively (well my kids have a switch, and I play with them, I guess, but just for me personally it's all PC or Steam Deck).

I'm just saying there is zero chance of you getting a 4K gaming laptop for $700. $1250+ seems a lot more likely.

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