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One of the first argument I've got myself into was returning the shopping cart to the designated spot. This person was replying to like 5 people at once justifying why they don't always return the cart, because the weather is hot and the corral is far, etc. while we disapproved.
Got some reddit argument PTSD from that lol
I suspect that person would also justify littering in order to "ensure street cleaners don't lose their jobs"
I used to not take my cart in, but I worked at Walmart at the time and pushed carts for them when needed. I didn't mind doing it all, and didn't care where anyone left their carts. Now that I've been at a better job for a while I put them up. Don't want to be out of touch with Cary pushing.
Shopping cart theory strikes again
That using 100% free and open source software is more important than actually getting your work done.
In a thread about Affinity Photo where someone insisted that we should all use gimp and just not edit photos if gimp doesn't have the features we need rather than asking Serif to port their software to Linux.
Also in several threads about migrating from Windows to Linux where every missing or complicated feature was brushed away with "just get used to not being able to do it, even if it's critical to your workflow".
That is 10,000% people who don’t do creative work especially professionally. I am fine with gimp and darktable versus anything Adobe/paid but I also barely use them lol. I would be back off Linux in a heartbeat if I honestly couldn’t use something I needed even though I prefer it.
One that I read on Mastodon:
Every bad thing about commercial software is the programmers' fault. Even if it was something that management decided and the programmer fought against it and lost. They claimed you should rather risk losing your job than accepting an inconvenience for your user. Weird take but okay. Then they started comparing software engineers to soldiers "just following orders" during the holocaust. That's where I blocked them. Cherry on top: they have "if you want to hire me as a software engineer, message me" in their bio. I wonder why nobody wants to hire them...
Even Nathan Poe would be amazed at the speed that that devolved into nazi comparisons
Once knew someone who was convinced that Rage Against the Machine was a white supremacist band.
that's political I guess
Whatever the hell this conversation was:
Transcript:
Recessa, ↑4 ↓1: That’s completely idiotic, production exist because there’s demand for it.
commie, ↑1 ↓4: I think you understand that milk is produced as part of the mammalian reproductive cycle. can you describe the causal steps between demanding milk and it’s production?
friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓2: Do you think dairy cattle just randomly spawns on the planetary surface?
commie, ↑1 ↓3: do you think there’s a direct causal link between drinking milk and more being produced?
friendlymessage, ↑3: Are you fucking with me?
commie, ↑2 ↓3: no. I’m trying to illustrate that markets are not governed by natural law; they are populated by irrational actors.
friendlymessage, ↑2 ↓1: Yeah, but they’re not as irrational as you are and producing milk costs money. If there’s no market, they will stop because they are not fuckin lunatics and they don’t have infinite resources
commie, ↑2 ↓2: milk was farmed before markets existed. there is no reason to believe that will ever stop.
friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓1: That… must be the dumbest discussion I’ve had in a while. Please read through your comments tomorrow when you’re sober
commie, ↑1 ↓1: I’ve been sober all day.
friendlymessage, ↑1: Okay, whatever you say
commie, ↑1 ↓2: everything I’ve said is true. you’re objecting to reality, and being pretty shitty about it to me.
friendlymessage, ↑2: No, you’re just making a no sensical argument at all. Milk was farmed from dairy cattle because it was consumed by humans. It’s simple supply and demand. There is no rational argument at all that if mankind stopped consuming milk, it would still be farmed. Why would any farmer go through the effort to upkeep cows and keep them impregnanted to make them produce milk if they cannot trade it or won’t consume it? Yes, humans have free will but they won’t produce stuff with very high effort just for fun. Except maybe very sick minds that just enjoy animal cruelty. And you won’t elaborate what your actual point is anyway.
Also, not that it matters, but you’re arguing that dairy farming existed before the market is simply wrong. There has been trade between human civilizations long before we started domesticating animals.
by far the best here
Unfortunately, it fails the thread, as it is political.
how though
They are arguing about market fundamentals, which means at least one of them is actually arguing "capitalism bad", which is political.
Having read through the other comments I think this is the winner. This person needs to read a book. What a wild hill to die on.
But some of the posts are hilarious lmao
I use Mint btw
Here’s a fresh one: someone called me a shitty parent because I think Americans are generally very intolerant of kids in public spaces. They flew off the handle because I said what some people call “annoying” I call “being a kid.” There are a lot of people on Lemmy who get very angry about the idea that kids might irritate them or otherwise make themselves known, and they immediately start ranting about how those parents are dog shit and the kids need to essentially be muzzled.
I have a pretty big ax to grind with all the eugenics/breeder bullshit going on in my country right now. It’s very scary and I get why people are weary of having kids. But anti-natalism is not a good look and this tendency for people to feel borderline virtuous for calling parents shitty for “not controlling their kids“ is really something to behold.
I’m not even here to have that debate. What’s so shocking to me is after just a couple of sentences the default stance is “you must be a shitty parent.” It’s pretty awful thing to say but I see it thrown around so casually all the time like how the right just calls people pedophiles for no fucking reason (obviously very different tiers of accusations but you get the point).
I agree, but also I think there’s a line between “kiddo getting excited or having a hard time in a public space” vs. “this kid is being neglected by their parents in favor of phones, and/or not taught general manners and human-to-human respect” because their parents are also inconsiderate of other people.
A child having a meltdown in a grocery store, or bouncing around a park or making excited commentary at a movie theater I can easily forgive. Ignoring and letting a child run off unattended in a restaurant where a server can trip and get hurt is a problem. A kid getting antsy happens, but you also need to let them know why they should be mindful in certain environments.
That said, there needs to be more openly kid-friendly spaces in the US, since they need free space to let off energy and develop their minds freely.
Not just kids, a lot of adults are annoying as hell too.
But Kids should be free to learn so for me it feels like they are allowed/have the right to be annoying
Listen, I just hate kids man. It’s probably my most consistent thing since I was a kid. Fuck kids. We should just be growing adults out of a vat, it’s 2025 for fucks sake.
Someone was trying to say the Van Halen's song "Jump" was about suicide. Despite being presented with an interview with David Lee Roth (who wrote the song) explaining what the song was about. Still think about that. Idk why. Maybe because it was like one of those conversations you have with an edgy emo kid in highschool and realize they are full of shit. Some weird nostalgia I guess
It is a song influenced by seeing a report about a suicidal jumper, but repurposing the idea into a positive one. Basically, it is saying that instead of a suicide jump someone should take a leap of faith and improve things.
People fixate on certain lyrics and kinda ignore the rest of the song.
I knew someone who swore "Hallelujah" by Leonard Cohen was a dirty song because two lines could be interpreted as innuendo.
"Hallelujah" has an overt reference to the story of David & Bathsheba in the Bible, which is a story about a king watching a woman bathe and then sending her husband into an unwinnable battle so he could steal her from him.
Mixed with references to Samson and Delilah
But wait! There's more!
Cohen is reputed to have written between 80[7] and 180[8] draft verses for "Hallelujah"—a number affected by having many versions of the same line.[9] He claimed 150 draft verses, substantiated by his notebooks containing manifold revisions and additions, and by contemporary interviews.[10] In a writing session in New York's Royalton Hotel, Cohen is famously said to have been reduced to sitting on the floor in his underwear, filling notebooks, banging his head on the floor.
I know this because I love that song and was obsessed with it for a year or two.
Yeah, which was its own level of toxic, but maybe doesn't have the super gross power imbalance?
Any time any user comments the word "based" to the most normal and reasonable shit ever.
Based has lost all meaning.
