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[–] [email protected] 90 points 5 days ago (19 children)

Cool. Now let me legally record my phone calls without rooting my phone.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (29 children)

Built-in to GrapheneOS for a while now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

CalyxOS also has it (though they block it where it's illegal).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Two problems:

  1. No automatic call recording.
  2. Banking apps don't work on GrapheneOS thanks to Play Integrity APIs, so you probably need to root to get them to work.

If you need to root anyway, might as well use BCR.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (4 children)

There is an app called CubeACR which does exactly that on unrooted devices.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

A beta build of Android 16 contains an early version of Google’s new Android Desktop Mode that, in the future, could let users simply plug their smartphone into a monitor and use it like a laptop or desktop computer.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

It seems this is an instance where the headline tells the full story

[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 days ago (20 children)

Now the question is if people will be stupid enough to replace all the freedoms their desktop OS still gives them with the vendor controlled shit show that is mobile OS.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

My guess is that people who would use DEX is also people who are satisfied with ChromeOS. Which is just as closed down.

Hopefully, when Android does this, they will be under same gatekeeper restrictions in the EU as Windows.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i‘m hyped for a graphene desktop mode. that wouldn’t be a replacement for my laptop/ desktop computers but still very much sick. and if i can run a terminal with neovim and tmux or ssh into other machines it would be a dope backup/ micro setup. probably not very useful, but fun i think

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

100% they will and want this. I’m a power user and even I see this as the future.

Have you worked in a non-tech field with people? Modern OSs and office apps are not intuitive to them. Hell, a lot have problems with just their phones as is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I suppose you mean the same effect I have noticed with our younger apprentices who know very little about the way computers work anymore since they grew up with phones only, they don't even know what a file system is any more.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I used to think the idea of a phone that is also my desktop would be really cool. But then I got to thinking just how locked down iOS and to a lesser extent Android are compared to Linux/Windows/MacOS, and decided I wouldn't use my Pixel as a replacement for my desktop or laptop even if the feature was there.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I swear they've been writing the same article for a year.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Much longer than that. But that's probably because Google keeps picking it up and then dropping it again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ability to recognize non-ASCII characters in the dialer? Nope... Ability to skip auto connect to the Bluetooth device? Nope, never again... Record phone calls? No, fuck you, we don't like it in US so it is banned to the whole world. Here you are a feature nobody asks for and shut up...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The auto connect for bluethooth is really infuriating. Windows and android both don't have options for disabling auto connect.

On linux you can only select between trust and no tust which effectively means auto connect. BUT WHY DONT THEY JUST CALL IT AUTO CONNECT.

It's a real bummer.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

do you think I am masochist or what, better give me gnu/linux on mobile ;)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
  • postmarketOS for older mainstream phones
  • Librem 5
  • PinePhone and PinePhone Pro
  • FuriLabs FLX1
  • Liberux Nexx (upcoming)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Dex was kind of nifty if you had a monitor laying around. I'm guessing this is the non-Samsung version feature.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (4 children)

You mean they're going to turn Androids into Chromebooks.

Honestly, it sounds horrible, but for people who don't have a PC, I guess it could be a benefit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

You mean they're going to turn Androids into Chromebooks

android is getting 'desktop' features so it can replace chrome os, and to keep pace with apple--who's doing similar things with ios

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's great. We need to consider how many people live in 3rd world countries that only have access to Android phones.

If they can hook up a keyboard, mouse, and a monitor to those phones then it empowers these people to have more opportunities to compete and contribute to the digital space.

Giving them access to the tools of developers could be a godsend.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

No, I'm not arguing that it's horrible from any other viewpoint than my own. And I'm super privileged enough to be able to both afford and have access to better options.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

This will make Android tablets a lot more appealing I guess, the ones that come with light keyboards coupled with the cover.

The major uses for me would be reading (web pages, pdfs) and code review or even some light coding. Not saying I will buy one for this but definitely something I would keep in mind for the future.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Cool. Samsung did this a decade ago though.

Everyone is abandoning Android with a passion thanks to Google's bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

But yeah. Fuck Google

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

Ubuntu did this a decade ago too

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This paired with virtualization features (hopefully with working sommelier) potentially enable running desktop wayland apps on phone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

To run waydroid on it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Microsoft tried the same idea about 10 years ago with Continuum, even including a hardware dongle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Continuum https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/continuum-phone

Canonical had something similar, too, back in the days with their Ubuntu Touch and named it Convergence: https://www.linux.com/news/first-ubuntu-touch-tablet-brings-convergence-last/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if this starts a trend of ultra-cheap "laptops" that are just hardware extensions for phones with no processing capabilities of their own.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Lapdock" seems to be the popular term. They've been around more than 10 years but never gone mainstream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapdock

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Can we bring back PalmTops ?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Didn’t canonical try this years ago?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (7 children)

That's cool and everything, yet we have an itsy-bitsy tiny problem: iirc, there are like 3.5 vendors that have opted into dp alt mode support, and each one I know of kinda sucks. I suppose it might be possible to simply enable it in software by changing the devicetree on usb3 devices or something if the port the vendor decided to route is the one multiplexed with dp, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Hopefully this means I can have a GraphineOS laptop (whenever google makes a new Pixel Laptop)

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