Ulrich

I've been boycotting Apple since 1997

not everybody is in the same situation you're in

The vast majority of people are.

You're treating this like we're having a debate, and I don't really know why.

Because I said they shouldn't be included and detailed why, and you disagreed 🤷

it's not impossible by that point I'll need an entirely different charger to get maximum charging speed.

It is extremely unlikely that your new phone would consume more power than your "old as fuck" laptop or your Steam Deck charger. It is, however, extremely likely that your new faster-charging phone would require a faster charger than your previous phone would include.

We're veering into the realm of the hypothetical

Yes and no. If they were required to, it's very likely they would continue doing what they have been doing for decades.

It really seems like you're trying to plead the case for very obscure use-cases and not living in reality.

Those "Solar generator" systems are all grossly overpriced. Look at something like this instead

One for my desk, the other for my bedside.

Sorry, you specifically said 2 different chargers, so I thought you had some misconception about how USB-PD works.

You skipped the last question. In 10 years or whatever, when you buy another new phone/laptop/literally any electronic device, you'll be able to charge it with the same charger you already have and won't have another one filling up your drawers like I do.

Also didn't reply to the bit about having an actually good and useful charger. When I bought my laptop, I threw the included one in the drawer and bought another one anyway that can be used to charge my phone and/or other devices. I even have one that looks like a normal charger but is actually a dock to connect a second monitor.

This sucks...since I need two different chargers for the phone.

...why do you need 2 chargers?

Have you never owned a laptop before? Have you never owned a PD charging phone before? Will you never own them again?

it definitely would've been nice to have at least one included with the phone.

If they included one with the phone, it would have been cheap crap that only served to charge the phone. Buy a nicer, more universal one, and then never buy one again. Or be like me and buy a handful of them to leave all over the house.

I glossed over it. I'm not really sure what their position, but I don't think any devices should come with USB-C chargers.

They're not going to throw in nice ones, they're going to throw in cheap junk.

When I got my Steam Deck I was super disappointed that it came with a USBC charger with the cable that was fixed to the power brick and only 3 feet long. So it's basically useless. I already have a dozen 45W+ chargers with multiple charging ports and A/C. I already have some really nice 10 foot braided cables that actually reach where I need them to. That charging brick is still sitting in it's box.

Is it true that if you don't use it, you lose it?

This is one place where AI actually makes sense

Hence it is not a reasonable solution.

No one's hating on anything. If you actually read my comment I expressed precisely the opposite, while answering OPs question.

The whole idea of Android forks is that they remove anti-features.

Like call up someone in another building ‘hey plug the jet into tower X so I can remote in?’

The whole idea is you don't need anyone local. You leave it plugged in 24/7 so that's it's accessible remotely, as needed.

All those TLDs cost money