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TL;DR: Self-Driving Teslas Rear-End Motorcyclists, Killing at Least 5

Brevity is the spirit of wit, and I am just not that witty. This is a long article, here is the gist of it:

  • The NHTSA’s self-driving crash data reveals that Tesla’s self-driving technology is, by far, the most dangerous for motorcyclists, with five fatal crashes that we know of.
  • This issue is unique to Tesla. Other self-driving manufacturers have logged zero motorcycle fatalities with the NHTSA in the same time frame.
  • The crashes are overwhelmingly Teslas rear-ending motorcyclists.

Read our full analysis as we go case-by-case and connect the heavily redacted government data to news reports and police documents.

Oh, and read our thoughts about what this means for the robotaxi launch that is slated for Austin in less than 60 days.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 48 minutes ago

Cuz other self driving cars use LIDAR so it's basically impossible for them to not realise that a bike is there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 minutes ago

You mean they are providing organ donations more than any other car. Silver lining. /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What bike is that in the photo?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

My partner and I were actually debating that exact question before I posted it!

It's just stock art, but of a rider in the Midwest. Custom exhaust, custom saddle and rack for that cafe racer look, and I just barely can't make out the model on the engine fairing.

Here it is all big, let me know if you can figure it out: https://unsplash.com/photos/a-person-riding-a-motorcycle-on-a-city-street-kPfwWyUWubA

Looks hot, that's why I picked it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

the cybertruck is sharp enough to cut a deer in half, surely a biker is just as vulnerable.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if a state court judge could mandate its use as unsafe?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They are illegal in every developed country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

But muh innovation! How are genius CEOs supposed to innovate if they can't use the public at large as guinea pigs??

[–] [email protected] 17 points 15 hours ago (9 children)

Remember, you have the right to self-defence, against both rogue robots and rogue humans.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

This is another reason I’ll never drive a motorcycle. Fuck that shit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's like smoking: if you haven't started, don't XD

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

As a fellow meat crayon I agree

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Negative. I'm a meat popsicle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Bahaha, that one is new to me.

~~Back when I worked on an ambulance, we called the no helmet guys organ donors.~~

This comment was brought to you by PTSD, and has been redacted in a rare moment of sobriety.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I also rammed 10cc spikes at the back of the bus, the world needs organ donors and motorcycles provide a great service for that. Hope your EMT career was short lived but rewarding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

My EMT career was both short lived and rewarding, right back at ya :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I remember finding a motorcycle community on reddit that called themselves "squids" or "squiddies" or something like that.

Their whole thing was putting road tyres on dirtbikes and riding urban environments like they were offroad obstacles. You know, ramping things, except on concrete.

They loved to talk about how dumb & short-lived they were. I couldn't ever find that group again, so maybe I misremembered the "squid" name, but I wanted to find them again, not to ever try it - fuck that - but because the bikes looked super cool. I just have a thing for gender-bent vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Calamari Racing Team. It's mostly a counter-movement to r/Motorcycles, where most of the posters are seen as anti-fun. Their whole thing is that, not just a specific way to ride, they also have a legendary commenter that pays money for pics in full leather.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

As someone who likes the open sky feeling, this is why I drive a convertible instead.

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