“I wouldn't want to belong to a club that would have me as a member”
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Groucho Marx
Indeed.
Posted 10h ahead of you, with the exact same replies.
You can do a quick search before you do this.
It was early for me and I didn't see it after a quick check. Sorry if I ruined the thread for someone or something.
If anyone is s curious, I work in that industry, and that is why it is so regulated. A lot of things have to go wrong for any single person’s mistake to matter. We test the heck out of aircraft. Some of these tests are absurd, but they’re meant to prove that the code still works even if the plane flies through the twilight zone.
I also work in the industry and yet you've got a company that didn't follow the rules of redundancy, locked a normally required safety critical architecture and software of using redundant sensor behind paid DLC and caused two fatal crashes.
Broken image link for me 😕
Having worked in this industry for going on 25 years, I long ago learned that there are way too many incompetent programmers in the world working critical jobs. It's best not to think about it.
Judge any service (and most other stuff) by its support, aftercare and how they handle complaints / fix problems.
That's worth more than flashy front end, marketing bs or even technical performance specs.
Yep. When buying a product, it ain't about the packaging, color of the paint, or the sticker/badge hung on it. It's all about the service when things go sideways. And at some point something will go wrong, it always does. That's when you learn just how good or bad a company is.
These things should never come down to the individual skill of the programmer. There should be systems and checks in place to assure the quality. And if the quality isn't reached, the programmer needs enough time and support to reach them.
But we all know, being thorough doesn't pay.
I'd say 'Imposter Syndrome' + 'Past Job Position Trauma'. There should be good review process and good pipeline with automatic testing and static code analysis, it shouldn't be a responsibility of a single person.
That is why I travel by train. At least a train can't fall out of the sky.
Not with that attitude.
More of an altitude issue tbh
That's why we invented bridges and viaducts, we didn't want the trains to feel left out
Hundreds of tons of steel detailing doesn't feel good. Also don't look at the rate of train derailments.
Derailments arent just flying off the rails and destroying a town, it could just be a misalignment
r/bitchIAmATrain and r/bitchIAmABus wanna argue (please link equivalent community)
Um ackshually that's a metro, not a train 🤓
It's one whale statue away from becoming a boat
Saaamee
"Software for airplanes" is a broad term. If I ever get into a position to make software for airplanes, it's probably not going to be things that can crash the plane. The entertainment system is still software for airplanes.
Swissair Flight 111 was possibly crashed by its entertainment system. Nothing to do with the software though.
If I recall correctly, it was installed questionably, drew too much power and caused a fire.
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Reminds me of a joke:
The faculty of the engineering department at a university are gifted a free vacation retreat. Once everyone is in their seats on the plane, the captain announces that the very plane they're sitting in was designed and built by their own students.
Chaos breaks out as the passengers scramble for the exits, until only one professor remains, calmly and confidently poised in his seat.
Naturally, he is asked why he didn't panic like his colleagues. With a knowing smile he replies "I know the abilities of my students, I've seen what they're capable of accomplishing when they apply themselves. I can assure you this piece of shit will never start."
i read that Boeing paid developers in India less than $5/hr for the 737 MAX software
That's shit even by Indian standards.
I hope they pay air force one programmers 2 dollars an hour, engineers 3 dollars an hour and factory workers 20 cents an hour.
To save on costs, QAs could be paid in exposure.
I, on the other hand, hope something will push them to pay their programmers 25 an hour
This is the type of peak capitalism that make me lose all faith in humanity. The fact American companies feel pressure to pay even less than the already poor salaries is testament to the need to burn this all to the ground.
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Don’t worry OP, they let me be an air traffic controller and my best mate an airline pilot.
Bad software or not, you’re fucked anyway.
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