this is what we used to call a "layer 8" issue
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Your threat model is being authoritarian + a moron.
They're using Signal with disappearing messages instead of official channels because they don't want their conversations documented for accountability. It's the same shit they relentlessly blasted Hillary for.
I was most disappointed when I read that he left the group chat. Missed opportunity for some top-class trolling:
We are good on OPSEC
Are you really tho? 👀 🥸 😱
He was running better OPSEC than the morons in charge.
Well, the bar was low…
I was most disappointed when I read that he left the group chat. Missed opportunity for some top-class trolling:
Although that may have had him arrested/raided for accessing most secret information he lacks clearance for, so leaving upon finding out it was the real thing and not a joke group was the better move.
The reporter is a former IDF soldier, there is no way he would face any real blowback from Trump. There is a reason they had his number to add to the group and it's because they were already feeding him information. The Atlantic is just a left coded mouthpiece for the State Department.
So your conspiracy is that a left-wing aligned journalist was in the phone of a right-wing politician. Therefore it's his fault he received the information and shouldn't have reported it?
Really? Even the flat Earth people would think that's stupid.
Lol, I didn't say any of that. But it's a fact Goldberg has been a mouthpiece for the State department going back to at least the Iraq war in my opinion. He's not a Trump guy but just doesn't want to piss off any current administration so he won't lose his access.
He didn't "access" anything, it was sent directly to him.
Remember when the Governor of Missouri tried to have a guy arrested for notifying the state of Missouri that they had a breach in one of the state websites, making peoples PII publicly visible?
That's the kind of idiots you're dealing with here. "We added you to a group chat by mistake and it's all YOUR fault."
But that obviously wouldn't stop them from having him disappeared. Heck I don't even think that's off the table now
Probably not, especially now that he's leaking the previously undisclosed classified information (that the people involved insisted was not classified). But them's the brakes when you're a journalist.
I think even the Trump administration is just about bright enough to realize that disappearing a top journalist wouldn't go well for them. Especially if he never turned up again.
I really don't think they'd care. Until someone shows them they're not untouchable, why wouldn't they?
This is one of the greatest headlines in the history of tech journalism.
Its actually perfect. No notes. No possible improvements.
This deserves some kind of award.
MAGA Administration Secure Communication Assessment Procedure:
- Are you Hillary Clinton?
☐ Yes ☐ No
If No, discontinue assessment and do whatever the fuck you want.
I recall hearing that professional poker players hate playing against novices, because novices are so unpredictable. It's really hard to plan a defense against someone(s) who are so incompetent that you have no idea what's going to happen.
That's why I win at poker. I don't know what I'm doing, so I'm always putting most of my chips in, whether I have nothing, or a pair of 2s.
That's probably why you lose at poker, too.
That's why drunk poker is so much fun lol. (Note: Don't bet too much money. And only play with friends, if possible.)
Reminds me of the time that one of my flat mates managed to actually convince a bunch of girls to play strip poker, and then it turned out he didn't know how to play.
I actually got kicked out from a poker club in college because of this. I wasn't "playing properly".
By 2028 "alcoholic idiot" will be the only condition still protected by the ADA.
Finally, the recognition I deserve
Military gear generally has tons of anti-moron safeguards. Unfortunately, Signal is for civilians.
Which also means these conversations were on an unapproved app on an unapproved device. Actual government phones wouldn't be able to get Signal, right?
Government secure phones are special hardware made by the NSA. They are nothing like civilian phones. Obama got the NSA to lock down his Blackberry but I doubt that is doable with today's mainstream smartphones.
The last stu-3 stopped working in 2009.
Yes they have different stuff now, but same idea.
I actually wouldn't be shocked if it was possible with modern smartphones. A significant amount of money is available to be made from federal security work, and meeting the NSA criteria has benefits that extend to companies that work in the federal security space as well.
As long as you can flash them, everything's possible.
In that spirit: Fuck Apple to hell.
I have a government-issued iPhone. It has Signal on it, and I have access to the appstore. It's also not allowed to be used for anything but unclassified communication and isn't permitted inside restricted areas.
Another 9/11 scale fuckup is all but guaranteed, mark my words.
But her emails, but Benghazi.
Yup, people are going to die, and it is going to be their fault... and they won't care. Maybe the American people will. 🤔
Americans will be pissed, but at the end of the day nothing measurable will come of it. We'd have to be straight starving to get off our asses and get shit done.
And by then they'll already have declared martial law.
That's gonna happen when a riot occurs or a protest gets violent. Presidents can do it for any length of time, and only Congress has the power to reign them in. And of course, none of them would do that, so it's "Marshall" Law until they crown Trump or Vance emperor.
I'm cool with starving, just don't touch my internet service.
about your plans for bombing an apartment building in Yemen.
Then maybe don't.
Can we just imagine if al Qaeda had added a journalist to their group chat regarding a bombing?