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[–] [email protected] 223 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

You can't parse [X]HTML with LLM. Because HTML can't be parsed by LLM. LLM is not a tool that can be used to correctly parse HTML. As I have answered in HTML-and-regex questions here so many times before, the use of LLM will not allow you to consume HTML. LLM are a tool that is insufficiently sophisticated to understand the constructs employed by HTML. HTML is not a regular language and hence cannot be parsed by LLM. LLM queries are not equipped to break down HTML into its meaningful parts. so many times but it is not getting to me. Even enhanced irregular LLM as used by Perl are not up to the task of parsing HTML. You will never make me crack. HTML is a language of sufficient complexity that it cannot be parsed by LLM. Even Jon Skeet cannot parse HTML using LLM. Every time you attempt to parse HTML with LLM, the unholy child weeps the blood of virgins, and Russian hackers pwn your webapp. Parsing HTML with LLM summons tainted souls into the realm of the living. HTML and LLM go together like love, marriage, and ritual infanticide. The cannot hold it is too late. The force of LLM and HTML together in the same conceptual space will destroy your mind like so much watery putty. If you parse HTML with LLM you are giving in to Them and their blasphemous ways which doom us all to inhuman toil for the One whose Name cannot be expressed in the Basic Multilingual Plane, he comes. HTML-plus-LLM will liquify the n​erves of the sentient whilst you observe, your psyche withering in the onslaught of horror. LLM-based HTML parsers are the cancer that is killing StackOverflow it is too late it is too late we cannot be saved the transgression of a chi͡ld ensures LLM will consume all living tissue (except for HTML which it cannot, as previously prophesied) dear lord help us how can anyone survive this scourge using LLM to parse HTML has doomed humanity to an eternity of dread torture and security holes using LLM as a tool to process HTML establishes a breach between this world and the dread realm of c͒ͪo͛ͫrrupt entities (like SGML entities, but more corrupt) a mere glimpse of the world of LLM parsers for HTML will ins​tantly transport a programmer's consciousness into a world of ceaseless screaming, he comes, the pestilent slithy LLM-infection wil​l devour your HT​ML parser, application and existence for all time like Visual Basic only worse he comes he comes do not fi​ght he com̡e̶s, ̕h̵i​s un̨ho͞ly radiańcé destro҉ying all enli̍̈́̂̈́ghtenment, HTML tags lea͠ki̧n͘g fr̶ǫm ̡yo​͟ur eye͢s̸ ̛l̕ik͏e liq​uid pain, the song of re̸gular exp​ression parsing will exti​nguish the voices of mor​tal man from the sp​here I can see it can you see ̲͚̖͔̙î̩́t̲͎̩̱͔́̋̀ it is beautiful t​he final snuffing of the lie​s of Man ALL IS LOŚ͖̩͇̗̪̏̈́T ALL I​S LOST the pon̷y he comes he c̶̮omes he comes the ich​or permeates all MY FACE MY FACE ᵒh god no NO NOO̼O​O NΘ stop the an​*̶͑̾̾​̅ͫ͏̙̤g͇̫͛͆̾ͫ̑͆l͖͉̗̩̳̟̍ͫͥͨe̠̅s ͎a̧͈͖r̽̾̈́͒͑e n​ot rè̑ͧ̌aͨl̘̝̙̃ͤ͂̾̆ ZA̡͊͠͝LGΌ ISͮ̂҉̯͈͕̹̘̱ TO͇̹̺ͅƝ̴ȳ̳ TH̘Ë͖́̉ ͠P̯͍̭O̚​N̐Y̡ H̸̡̪̯ͨ͊̽̅̾̎Ȩ̬̩̾͛ͪ̈́̀́͘ ̶̧̨̱̹̭̯ͧ̾ͬC̷̙̲̝͖ͭ̏ͥͮ͟Oͮ͏̮̪̝͍M̲̖͊̒ͪͩͬ̚̚͜Ȇ̴̟̟͙̞ͩ͌͝S̨̥̫͎̭ͯ̿̔̀ͅ

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, the timeless classic. Chef's kiss

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Alright new copypasta drop!

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well ok new to me then (maybe now I'm thinking I might have read it before lol

Also, LMAO

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for honoring the ancient memes. I pray that Katy, t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m, accepts this offering.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

But it is amazing

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Breathtaking. I wish i had more than one upvote.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

send me your data and i will parse it for you

it may take me a week to get back to you

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How many tokens fit in your context window?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

About tree fiddy

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

if java then like 9

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

So I guess it's just only us Millennials that know how to convert a PDF properly, and we're just sandwiched in between boomers and gen Z finding the most ridiculous ways to try to accomplish that task.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Somehow, millennials ended up being the only generation that at least kind of knows how to use computers.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I will use my powers for evil, just to be smug.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Might as well get something out of being the last adult generation before the collapse.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Naah. There is plenty of Gen X, Y, Z who know and plenty of Millenials who dont.

Its just if you wanted to "do stuff with computers" you had to develop some understanding back then.

Today you can "do stuff" like gaming much easier out of the box. So not everyone who "does stuff" knows his way around.

In the office most colleagues of all generations just know how to do their specific things, mostly in MS Office products.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

As always, GenX just forgotten.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I didn't want to shit on you guys. Most of you are all right.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ctrl a

Ctrl c

alt tab

Ctl v

Ctl s

conversion complete

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

real men find a random pdf converter website on the internets and upload our secret documents there

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

$ pandoc doc.pdf -o doc.txt

Edit: welp, pandoc can't do that. pdftotext it is.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is why millenials, despite all else wrong with us, are the best generation. I asked a kid the other day if they knew what a directory was..... Crickets.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

What's fucking wrong * is * that we're sandwiched between Boomers/GenX and Zoomers. Too young to be able to shove the Cold War brain rotters out of power, too old to convince the Zoomer incels to talk to a girl instead of listening to Andrew Tate.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Yes, there are LLMs for that, you literally just have to Google "llm parse PDF".

You could also use tesseract or any number of other solutions which probably work as well...

But an inexperienced kid is gonna act like an inexperienced kid

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

But an inexperienced kid is gonna act like an inexperienced kid

Let's give him access to government payroll!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

It's using a shotgun instead of a drill.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

Same for music like suno. I don't need to remix and hallucitate new fusion music, I just need a really good way to effectively search/discover all music that already exists in one place.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm still mad there's no straightforward way to convert a PDF into semantic HTML. There's plenty of tools to convert it into HTML that looks the same with pages and such, but I just want the content.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We absolutely should have more specialized LLMs. That being said we have dozens of tools that convert documents and data. Also any engineer worth a nickel should be able to whip something up in an hour or so for most cases.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But I want AI to convert my mp3s to Oggs and vice versa 😭😭😭

Not some stupid "conversion library" or whatever that is

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I used LLM to format my markdown table (ಥ ͜ʖಥ)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is a primary use for me. A couple times per day.

That’s part of what makes LLMs so popular with software engineers, they solve lots of trivial daily computer tasks.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

If it works and it's stupid, then it's not stupid.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

It is still stupid, if it is incredibly inefficient and super wasteful of limited resources.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

Starving yourself to lose weight works. It's also stupid.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Hi, yes, one PDF converter please. Just the txt, actually. Yes, extra errors. Thank you."

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