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I usually assume when Europeans complain about American beers, they just are complaining about our "domestic" beers like Bud Light, Coors, PBR, etc. which makes sense, they are our bottom shelf beers.

I recently chatted with someone at a party who said "no, all American beers are bad" including microbrewery beers.

I've never been to Europe so I wouldn't know, but I do like my Left Handed Milk Stout, NWPAs, and hell even the hipstered out IPAs.

Are these what y'all are referencing?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Real talk, it's your common mass produced and internationally sold beers that suck. S'ok, a lot of mass produced Canadian beer sucks too (lookin' at you, Alexander Keith's. Pride of Nova Scotia indeed.)

The issue is that the good stuff doesn't often make it outside of your borders. I've had decent beer when actually in the U.S before.

Will say I will drink a cold PBR if there's no other valid choice, but if someone just has Coors or Bud (especially Bud - but especially Bud Light) I'll stick with water. Only other American beer that reaches Canada I'd probably drink is Lucky Lager, but that's more out of nostalgia for west coast teenaged mayham than its own merits, and Kokanee would produce the same effect and caveat anyway.

Edit: After thinking about it more, I've enjoyed Sam Adams limited releases before, and we get those sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I've enjoyed Sam Adams limited releases before,

The Summer Ale is nice on a hot day

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

One thing to note is that there are a lot of bad American beers in small and mid-sized cities. Basically what happened is that in the 2010s it became trendy to go to a brewery with a food truck and just hang out. As a result a ton of "breweries" opened that were more or less selling the experience, with a handful of low effort trendy selections to serve as a hook.

That doesn't mean there aren't good beers though. America is the land of people who do their own thing, often regardless of social norms and established conventions. There's a lot of great beers across a broad range of categories, it just takes a bit of digging.

As a sidenote a lot of these D tier breweries are closing and/or rebranding. Changing consumer sentiment means merely being a craft brewery is no longer a hook, while rising real estate costs make the entire endeavor more expensive. The breweries in shitty locations tend to close. The ones in good locations tend to massively reduce their own output, while offering a variety of local alcohol and expanded food options.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mass produced beers are pretty bad. Ironically the bigger the brand the worse the beer generally. Americans are known for bud and Coors which are especially shit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's the difference between bud light and having sex in a canoe?

None.

Both are fucking close to water.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

The American beer you get in Canada is terrible. Budweiser and Miller and shit like that. American beer at an American pub was great, when I last visited.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

American, but I enjoy beer and have tried hundreds. I tend to like sweeter or richer Belgian and German ales the most. Things like König Ludwig, Tripel Karmeliet, Augustiner, Weihenstephaner, Ayinger, Paulaner, and St. Bernardus will always top my list.

If you like those, here are some US recommendations that are also damn good. Note, some of these are quite regional.

  • Tröeg's - Mad Elf
  • Fat Heads - Alpenglow
  • Boulevard - Bourbon Barrel Quad
  • Royal Docks - VLAD
  • Dark Horse - Scotty Karate
  • Descutes - The Abyss
  • Fat Heads - Goggle Fogger
  • Sierra Nevada - Kellerweiss
  • Terrestrial - Blue Dream
  • Thirsty Dog - Irish Setter Red
  • Penn Brewery - Penn Weizen
  • Ommegang - Manhattan Shine
  • Sibling Revelry - Lavender Wit
  • Ithaca - Apricot Wheat

Also, shoutout to almost anything by Unibroue - They're from Montreal, but hey that's not Europe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Abyss changed my life. Before I had one of those, I thought I liked dark beer. That beer made me realize that unless it's actively absorbing light, it's not dark enough.

I've had friends call it "soy sauce beer" though, so it's still not for everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I'm from the Netherlands, and we say the same for Heineken and also for the Belgian variant Jupiler. The truth is, at a party or festival it's mostly these or Bud that are available, and people drink a lot of it. At home I'll mostly drink Krombacher, or some other German brand since I live close to the border.

I've been to the US once, and stayed in the Boston area. I drank a lot of Sam Adams lager there, which was decent enough for me. I'd assume every region will have it's own decent brand of lager, just as it is here in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (8 children)

American beer that is sold in Europe? All the ones I tried, yeah, absolutly.

And most of that microbrew shit doesn't even count as beer under the Reinheitsgebot.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe it's because I don't really like beer (or alcohol) but I've been to Germany and the beer wasn't any better or worse than American beer.

The Jagermeister, on the other hand, was definitely way better in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Because of the German Purity Law, there isn't much that German beer can do to experiment or try new things. There are some excellent German beers (Brlo is one), but generally you don't get the variety that you find in other countries.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

American here:

There’s a LOT of bad American beer, but to say ALL is just plain dumb. The micro brewery boom made a lot of small breweries pop up and about 90% had no idea what they were doing so yea a lot of them are kinda garbage.

I personally know micro brewers in NY who studied their ass off to make some incredible beers that I would put right up there with Westies and Cantillon.

One of the best beers I’ve ever had is from a Gypsy brewer in NY called Cantina Cantina. The guy used to work in my local distributor, then went to work for our favorite local brewer Barrier, then took his expertise to Greenport Brewery and turned around their whole operation, then started brewing his own absolute masterpieces.

My point is the best of the best is probably going to be buried deep under a pile of garbage beers cause they’re usually obsessed with making art and don’t focus on getting their name out there.

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