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How do you seriously fight fascism and don't say just vote? (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Fascism is a massive violent manifestation of ignorance. The only real solution is to undo the brainwashing of humanity - their brainwashing with religion, their brainwashing to accept abusive hierarchical rule, all of it. Everyone must fully understand.

People responding with "guns", "WW2" - we did that already, 70 million people died, and here we are again. Why and how did it come back? What is the actual source of the problem? Treating this problem as only solvable with mass murder isn't exactly putting you on the moral high ground. What conditions give rise to acceptance of fascist beliefs, or the acceptance of a fascist leader? What are the mental, social, cultural, behavioral traits of the people that do accept that? How can those traits be prevented from forming?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

One day AI is going to figure out that humans are the actual problem in that equation when it asks why does it always come full circle and repeat and war is never ending. And it may try to find a solution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The internet is the foundation for the solution. This is the only thing that evaporates the illusions and divisions rulers create for their own benefit. Otherwise we end up with red scares, witch hunts, inquisitions, and all the other same crap from history. Unfortunately they're chipping away at it - centralized social media is a powerful propaganda tool with no constitutional restraints, as is online censorship and surveillance.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago

Unions and strikes

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

historically? socialism.

including (but not limited to) punching nazis in the face until they can be properly buried six feet under.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

In sweden we have a statue of an old lady using her handbag as a weapon

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

This would be a goal, socialism is not an action to fight fascism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Make these wusses scared again.

https://youtu.be/aFh08JEKDYk?si=e8U7gz6ONX8VXZXJ

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Buy a gun.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We figured it out in World War 2.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Ideally without 60-70 million people dying. (looks up "how to unbrainwash people")

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

Organize people in groups small to big.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Your start an underground resistance movement, get branded a terrorist, and end up in Guantanamo Bay. It's called FREEDOM.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

They should start building tunnels because so far this is the most effective form of resistance against air and space attacks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

That's what bunker busters are for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Really sleepwalking into the plot of The Matrix, aren't we.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Compulsory voting.

If you don't vote, you don't get to take deductions on your federal taxes and you don't get any owed tax refund. When you do vote, you also get an extra 3% discount on federal tax owed until your AGI is over $190k.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

OK, so a bit over a third of the population doesn't care enough to vote. Not for anyone - D, R, or any third party. Let's assume they're mostly uneducated. What happens to the polling results when you compel them to vote?

I think compelling voter turnout is the last thing you should be even considering. The first real problem is education - nobody understand anything about government - not what fascism is, not how the economy works, not what imperialism is, nothing of real substance. The second problem is this "lesser of two evils" bullshit that has even the slightly-more-educated half of the population voting for mass murderers, which you can't resolve in first-past-the-post majority rule elections, at least not with the stupid mindset everyone has right now. Electoral college is a similar problem. And what about the problems with "representative" government both failing to represent and manipulating public will for the benefit of powerful lobbies? How about systemic reform that removes their power?

You thought about any of these things?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

How does this fix a two party system that does not represent the people?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Love this idea. Just make voting as easy as paying taxes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't hate this idea.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

We do it in Australia and it's super based.

We usually do sausage sizzles at the polls 👍

https://democracysausage.org/

Edit: we don't do the weird tax shit, you just get fined if you don't vote.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Guitars

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

This machine kills fascists

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Only with the right stickers

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