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[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 minutes ago

Unions and strikes

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago

We figured it out in World War 2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Organize people in groups small to big.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Your start an underground resistance movement, get branded a terrorist, and end up in Guantanamo Bay. It's called FREEDOM.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

They should start building tunnels because so far this is the most effective form of resistance against air and space attacks.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Compulsory voting.

If you don't vote, you don't get to take deductions on your federal taxes and you don't get any owed tax refund. When you do vote, you also get an extra 3% discount on federal tax owed until your AGI is over $190k.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

Love this idea. Just make voting as easy as paying taxes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 50 seconds ago

We do it in Australia and it's super based.

We usually do sausage sizzles at the polls 👍

https://democracysausage.org/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ok you don't want the way answer vote sonit doesn't happen. The second way guns.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

there are other types of disruptive protesting other than guns… for example, blocking the roads around tesla plants and dealerships.

also sabotage…

i would be happy to hear about any nazi’s getting murked but, most people shouldn’t even think about trying that…
i do think the targets of nazis should get guns though for self-defense….

tl;dr an immature person wants to die for a cause, a mature person is willing to live for a cause

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Only with the right stickers

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago

Be more precise with your language and you have the answer. Fight is too vague. Punch a nazi in the face.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago

I'm buying some stickers to put on every tesla I see.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (6 children)

Ok, so serious answer for our friends who don't live in places without an active culture of protest:

  1. Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn't be in this mess.

  2. Give money to advocacy organizations

  3. Give your time and money to mutual aid organizations

  4. Read the news (not just on lemmy either)

  5. CALL your congresspeople. Emails and letters are better than nothing, but do not have the same impact.

  6. Try to get your friends to do #1-5

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

I live in a country where voting is compulsory and yet we got Donald trump lite elected. Voting can be part of the solution but it can never be the only thing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 12 hours ago

Just playing devils advocate here. If we are talking about real fascism then usually the vote is rigged by that point. Usually by the point where you already have facism take over voting is already too late.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Trump won with the popular vote.

A key element to defeat things like fascism, which build themselves on the popularity of fear, is that voting can't be free-for-all. Voting should require, or be weighed with, some sort of licensing, testing of sane mind, awareness and understanding of at least current events, review of known association with dangerous anti-society parties, etc.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

More people didn't vote than they did for either candidate. Apathy won.

Means testing voting? What could possibly go wrong?! You do see how horrifically abusable that is, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

There has not been an US presidential election where the president got more votes than the number of non-voters. If apathy won then it had won every single time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. And look where it's gotten us. Oligarchic control

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That's hardly the reason. If you had a multi-party system the voted would be even more spread out between the candidates which makes it even less likely for a candidate to get more votes than the non-voting population. However a multi-party system would significantly lessen the possibility of getting oligarchic control because you wouldn't have to choose between 2 shitty options, you'd have to have multiple shitty choices for the shittiest one to win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (5 children)
  1. Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn't be in this mess.

You would think that, but the reality is probably that out if everyone who didn't vote you would get an even spread so they really don't make that big of a difference. Take other countries where voting is compulsory like Brazil and Argentina and they also elected extreme right clowns.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

out if everyone who didn’t vote you would get an even spread

I don't think that's necessarily true. I suspect that the median non-voter is less wealthy than that of the voters.

Take other countries where voting is compulsory

We have compulsory voting in Australia. Presently we have a progressive (left of centre) government. It's possible or likely that we will elect a right of centre government this year, but not extreme right clowns.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Not mine, but from a post: First, you’re never going to win a head-on battle with an adversary that’s got you outgunned. That’s not the point of the Resistance. The point is to create friction, make it hard for your adversary to operate, to increase transaction costs.

Second, resistance doesn’t have to be a dramatic act. It can be a small act, like losing a sheet of paper, taking your time processing something, not serving someone in a restaurant. Small acts taken by thousands have big effects.

Third, use your privilege and access if you’ve got it. He and his buddies stole weapons from the Nazis by driving up with a truck to the weapons depot, speaking German, acting like it was a routine pick up, and driving away.

Fourth, part of the third point really, sometimes the best way to do things is right out in the open. Because no one will believe something like what you’re doing would be happening so blatantly. All good Social Engineers know this.

Five, bide your time. But be ready for opportunity when it strikes. Again, your action need not be dramatic. Just a little sand in the gears helps.

Six, and this is a no-brainer, operate in cells to limit damage to the resistance should they take you out. Limit the circulation of info to your cell, avoid writing things down and...

Seven, be very careful with whom you trust. Snitches and compromised individuals are everywhere. My dad was arrested because of a snitch. His friends weren’t so lucky, the Gestapo machine gunned the cabin they were in without bothering to try and arrest them.

Eight, use the skills you have to contribute. Dad was an electrical engineer. When the Nazis imposed the death penalty for owning a radio (the British sent coded messages to the Resistance after BBC shows) he said he became the most popular guy in town.

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