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[–] [email protected] 152 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I had a shower thought the other day that if more CEOs were shot dead, there'd probably be less Return to Office.

People are sometimes like "oh but violence is bad!" but ignore all the casual harms inflicted on people by capitalism and friends.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They also ignore all the freedom of the lower classes which was won through violence against the upper class.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

And let's not forget all the freedoms that were granted because we asked nicely while tugging our forelocks.

Those are easy to remember because there are none.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When the people in charge refuse to listen, the only tool left is violence.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They also ignore literally all of human history when they say shit like that. Hell even the civil rights movement only worked because of Malcolm X's threat of violence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Malcolm X was a fringe figure: the NOI got lots of press but didn't really do all that much besides indulging in infighting and encouraging local Black businesses. Their approach to politics was separatism. H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael, the Panthers, and many others were more closely involved in direct action.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah CEOs will mandate RTO for workers while they themselves stay remote.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

They can be killed in their homes, too.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

So no change?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

The (attitude) Adjuster goes blam.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m in management now but I say go get ‘em please.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

most management I would assume would be with the workers. If your not c suite your nothing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You'd think that, but a depressingly large percent of middle managers identify more with the bosses than with the people doing real work. They believe that if they toe the line and work hard at enabling the sociopaths, they might eventually get the promised invisible handjob.

Interestingly, I've known more senior managers than middle managers who are radical. I'm one, and I've known many others. I think that those who really understand how the system works end up advancing, but they're also the ones with no illusions about how the sausage is made.

Capitalism has made me moderately rich (and I started from near-destitution), but that doesn't mean I am unaware of its many toxic side effects. You have to live within the system that exists. People who don't know how to do anything make shitty revolutionaries and incompetent reformers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

yeah I get that. Im unemployed currently but I know that my rate is much higher than the large majority of folks so I feel kinda guilty in a way but at the same time I have a sickly wife and our household income puts us in the average. My ability to earn more just offsets her inability to earn one. Of course though medical expenses make our expenses higher and as I looked for work I went through the excersise to see how much I needed to make and it just blows me away mainly because medical expenses are a third of the budget. as high as housing although we have about as cheap a housing situation as someone could have nowadays. We have such a topsy turvy crazy society were one can go from being comfortable to destitute or vice versa at practically the drop of a hat but the direction and pressures are downward. Ugh. I do find middle managers tend to work relative to metrics they want to look good and they want the people under them to focus on them. the people under them usually just want to have their stuff working and to clearly know which thing to concentrate on and higher levels also looking to have stuff working but from a larger perspective.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Tech is a bit different because a significant portion of your compensation comes as stock when you get higher up the ladder but yeah.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Stock options and grants are a tool to trick you into accepting lower pay and conflating your interests with those of the capital class. (Speaking as someone who has received both!)

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Nothing will change until the rich take a big haircut.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fingers and toes crossed, get'em for every last penny!

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 week ago (2 children)

luck is not gonna help. Only action and organizing can save us. Join a union too.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, I would if I lived in a place which had such movements, believe me... As it is, all I can do is wish for Lady Luck to smile upon those who have the chance! Sure, it's a bad idea to bank everything on luck, but it can never hurt to have some on your side!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

where do you live? The tech workers movement is reaching pretty much everywhere there's tech production.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Romania. There haven't been any significant developments in this sense around here, at least not as far as I know. Each company around here has a Wagers' Rep of sorts and they gather with other such Reps and discuss wage related stuff, but it's nowhere near as elaborate as a Union, nor has it ever felt significant in any relevant way.

Most people have kinda'... given up on this country. Everyone scrambles to eject themselves abroad as soon as humanly possible. Can't say I blame'em.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you aware that Romanian IT sector has the highest rate of unionization of any IT sector in the world? SITT is a case study studied all over the world. https://transform-network.net/blog/interview/the-romanian-it-workers-labour-union-showed-that-everyone-can/

It might not be the sexiest, most modern radical union, but it is a case of success with numbers to show. Maybe you can start from there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Huh, I honestly had no idea, thank you! I'll certainly start looking into it! Perfect timing, too, quit my job so I could focus on trying to get into stuff like this!

I sure hope the fact that it isn't common knowledge (at least not among most of the people with whom I've worked during the past decade) is down to them being effective and not it being a hopeless cause, though... Speaking from personal experience (and I leave room for doubt because I have notoriously bad luck in general), it sure didn't feel all that grand working in this industry. Not about the work in itself, but the practices...

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile Accenture has 1400:1 CEO-to-worker pay ratio.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, then they lose all their best and brightest who are disappearing off to work on their own things.

All these idiot C-suite trash will wind up holding is a bag of yesterday's technology, a mass of obsolete infrastructure and a bunch of brands they've helped destroy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

It is by design. Pool a bunch of money, buy companies to bleed them dry. Wait for new companies to take their place, rinse and repeat.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Eh... You can run a company without the best or brightest nowadays. Mediocrity gets the job done, mostly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It's always been that way. Otherwise General Motors wouldn't exist. Neither would Microsoft.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)

H1Bs are fine with coming into the office and won’t put up a fight with any corporate policy….

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yup every time I see H1B I replace it in my head with tech slave. They're paid, but the deck is so stacked against them they effectively cannot refuse anything. ANYTHING. A well informed H1B worker might score a chance at permanent residency for some of the abuse they suffer. But mostly it's just years of abuse with very strict rules to get their residency.

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