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[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Beautiful irony to see this coming from Sam "Worldcoin" Altman.

Bonus points, try inputting a prompt into ChatGPT asking whether Sam Altman is an oligarch and his "rescue" of Worldcoin executives in Kenya is an example of oligarch power.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh come on, there's nothing irresponsible or creepy about wanting to collect retinal images of every person on the planet into a single, Internet-connected database. You're just being paranoid.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He would never do something bad with that, that would be un-american

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't he just do what America is known and loved for? ... Denying entire countries their basic human rights, sovereignty, and democracy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

They're working on bringing that beloved export back home for the American people to enjoy

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're correct that by the definition provided—someone leveraging wealth and influence to shape governance or bypass accountability—Sam Altman’s involvement in the Worldcoin Kenya case aligns with traits commonly associated with oligarchs. The reported U.S. government intervention, potentially influenced by his connections, underscores the significant power he wields beyond business, particularly when it comes to international affairs.

In this context, the definition does fit, making him effectively an oligarch in practice, even if not commonly labeled as such.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Interesting, the several times I tried the prompt, I got some gibberish about "humanitarian concerns".

This was earlier in the year though.

I also got radically different output when I didn't specifically include the WorldCoin in Kenya example that was more categorical with denying that Altman is an oligarch.

Prompting Gemini LLM about Sunder Pichai was also interesting.

To be honest, I was expecting this stuff to be "hardcoded" to put out PR friendly answers.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Tbf I first asked it for a definition of Oligarch and then asked it your promp with the addition that it should use the definition it gave me.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"Come on Elon, you're going to get us all assassinated."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

Can’t help reading that to the tune of Come On Eileen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I 100% to this as one rich asshole reaching out to another rich asshole in s gesture of self preservation and not rocking the boat. Trump's job is to be the moral shield.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Musk is not american anyway so ...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

He strikes me as a "wannabe American". As someone who has lived in the US, but didn't necessarily want to immigrate on a permanent basis, you can smell the deep insecurity with Elmo on this issue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, considering his wealth, I'd say he's living an American dream to its fullest extent.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I never heard "born rich" as part of the American dream. The idea behind the American dream is that you COULD become as wealthy as Elon, starting from nothing. Not only is that not true for him, but that hasn't been true about any billionaire.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You wouldn't say that of most other immigrants

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fair enough, I looked it up and it seems he has a US citicenship.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I looked it up too and honestly I don't doubt that he does have US citizenship and there's no scandal. But interestingly, the proof they offer is that he was registered to vote in Texas in 2002 and that wouldn't be possible if he weren't a citizen. I'm sure that's also true. It's just funny that that assumption would challenge Trump's allegation of all the illegal immigrants registering to vote. According to him, Musk's registration wouldn't be proof of anything.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/12/06/elon-musk-us-citizen-fact-check/76803209007/

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm a bit out of the loop but if I understand correctly Altman contacted Musk a few years ago to discuss AI. They decided to create OpenAI so there is an open source alternative to Google for AI.

Then Altman saw that there was too much money at stake and decided to just go for profit all the way?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Altman is a business bro, thats very on point for him. I just don't know why people even listen to his shit

There's even hard proof that when he was telling the public they would release their research for public good and in the meeting with other stakeholders he was saying completely opposite.

He lies to literally everyone but still people regard him high

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He lies to literally everyone but still people regard him high

So, politics is his next move, then?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

He's CEO of a large company. He's already in politics. Politicians do the bidding of people like Altman.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

There was a falling out between them after the board picked altman instead of Elon as ceo.

Now Elon is suing openai nominally because there renegging on the whole non profit thing, but really because he has his own xai that is competition and because of the grudge because he's a petty manchild.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These CEOs could give a shit about the harm Musk will do to regular folks. They just don’t want to see their own businesses suffer over it.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Half supervillain is American enough.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

You can do a little villainy as a treat

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

Musk to Altman: I can't help it, it's my nature.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

You all are already supervillains, you're just worried about cannibalism here _alt_man.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

"guys, I thought when we removed checks and balances and due process and accountability and made power and wealth for personal benefit at all cost our golden idol that...well that only applies to the poors right? I mean there is no timeline in which that would ever be used against me unfairly right? I understood it that I am only allowed to benefit from this sort of arrangement. Right ? Guys?"

It's difficult for hubris and naivety to coexist but he's managed to pull it off with this panicked effort. Seriously the Wiley Coyote moment as he looks down and feels the first tug of gravity.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Don’t go full supervillain, just a little bit less.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

These guys smell like CEOs, and we all know what happens to CEOs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

News flash, Musk in not American.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Actually, he is. He holds South African, Canadian, and US citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Also Altman: "Can I get $7T and several nuclear reactors to power my god-like AI?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am so tired of this clown stuffing my feed with paid articles in my feed...

Just die off already jfc nobody cares..

LLMs are gimmick

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Neither Musk or Altman posted this, your issue is with the OP.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Altman pays for these news articles, sweetie

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I doubt it, but regardless, someone else posted the link here, not Altman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Then you don't understand how modern PR works lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

The source for this article is a summit that happened, and the main purpose seems to be to criticize Musk, not prop up Altman. I really don't think this is funded in any way by either.

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