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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably 95% of the time, honestly.

Almost every time, even when it's something I'm a SME about. I just don't want to play the popularity/karma game and deal with nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used to think that Reddit was the worst about that but Lemmy has topped it. Reddit would be filled with comments from people that were off about something small that I’m a SME about. People on Lemmy like to engage in entire comment chains that are just flat out wrong that they’re confidently incorrect about.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Ah ok, thanks! Figured it had something to do with "expert" but I couldn't figure it out.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Consider that your target audience for this question might inherently have difficulty answering this.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

50% of th...ah, fuck it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve been on the internet long enough I can have the entire argument with myself at this point. I’ve taken to just posting what I want and forgetting about it. They can’t all be bangers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I almost didn't even post this response.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just deleted four paragraphs about Batman and the ethics of murder because I realized I didn't actually want to argue with anyone, I was just soapboxing. And it would definitely start an argument.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know, we could use a soapbox community. No replies, just text posts. I could definitely post a couple of my own.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That's when you post anyway and add in "I will not be taking any questions."

Stick to your word, ignore replies if you don't even care what other people have to say in response.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Fuck it, soap box anyway. It's a neat way to catalog your thoughts and opinions, like having a journal or blog where the subjects are informed by what you're commenting on.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

All. The. Fucking. Time.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Would have been great if no one replied to this post.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

3 out of 4 times?

Find myself reiterating something that was already said. Arguing a point nobody cares about. Entering a discussion that I know will not go my way regardless of what info I provide, because even Lemmy has a Hive Mind sometimes and doesn’t like dissent. Realizing half way through writing it that I don’t really know enough about the subject and should just shut up. Or maybe I just think my comment won’t offer anything that contributes to the discussion.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

So. Often. At least twice a day.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I often type and then realize I'm not really adding anything to the discussion. Then I just discard it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I post about 1/20th of the replies i write.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This sounds about right. I have an emotional response to something, feel I have something to add, and start banging out a wall of text.

Then I reread it for errors before I post and just think "nobody needs to see this" and delete it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Less here, way more often on Reddit. Here is nicer to have conversations.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot. I start typing then stop, physically remove my hands from the keyboard and remind myself that A) arguing on the internet never convinced anyone of anything and B) it will make me feel worse, not better.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Often but not as often as I used to on Reddit. On Lemmy, I do feel more of a sense that I can contribute to the conversation and hopefully will be met with more respect than the other place.

We’re building the kind of community we want. I want to be interacting with engaged and respectful people, so I’m trying to be the same. Feels like more ownership, Yknow?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

You're lucky I'm even responding to this. That's how often.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

(furiously clicks to delete the partially written answer)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All the time. I just did it right now because I don't want to fight about what I was going to say. Sigh. Tl;Dr lemmy isn't that different than reddit... still lots of jerks.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The older I get, the fewer fucks I give. I still give fucks, just not as much.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think of this as like reddit ptsd. People on lemmy have generally been unexpectedly level headed when disagreeing on things.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I have done this for years starting with emails. I find typing out the reply helps me more than actually sending it.

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Very often, and it doesn't help that my replies tend to be absurdly long

Towards the end, I either realize that what I want to say has already been said by someone, the argument isn't worth it (like you said), or what's on my mind really isn't worth bothering other people over.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't argue. I just state my case. It's up to the other guy to get offended and defensive.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I guess most see it as a bad thing. As waste, or resignation. But here's the good story!

It can be a fruitful inner dialogue. While writing the comment, you engage with the topic, which changes your mind. That's a healthy and good thing! If in the end, your result is "I'd rather not post that, because ...", then this reason is the insight you gained by writing that comment.

Sometimes I realize flaws in my reasoning this way. And I'm happy to catch them! Imagine if it was not asynchronous written conversation, but real time face to face.

Of course there are many reasons to delete a draft. If it's mostly insecurity, I'd encourage people to give it a try. Experiences are what bring you forward, and if it's only to learn what not to repeat in the future.

I almost deleted the last paragraph.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

50% of the time, i comment every time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me it's not the realization that the argument isn't very good is the realization that what I'm about to say isn't very interesting.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of the time. Sometimes I even do research to back up my argument then I realize it’s not worth it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

All the time, and on multiple social networks. I’ll write up a whole post just to consider the responses then delete it without posting.

I get what I wanted to say out of my system, and get no replies to deal with.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Rarely. If I've put in the effort to jot down whatever bollocks I've come up with - it's going out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

More times than not. Arguing on the internet is like mud wrestling with a pig.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

More often than not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I often will do this. At the end of writing a comment I ask myself "is my desire to comment satisfied by writing this comment, is it more about me writing it than other people reading it, is the response to the comment more likely to bring bain than joy?" The answers often lead me to just closing the comment page rather than posting it, and I feel fine about that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Sometimes I can be pretty mean and stubborn in real life, so I actively try to not bring that here.

I gave up on Internet arguments a while back, felt like I was getting too old. Most of us are grown ups here, so we should all act like grown ups here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This post would have like 1000 comments if we all hit send

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wonder how many replies were deleted here before posting

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

All the time, my friend, all the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

yes

i wish we could disable inbox replies on here

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