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Note: Original report by Bloomberg, article by Reuters proxied by Neuters to bypass paywall.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And whoever buys it won't also have some kind of ulterior motive? Chrome isn't likely to be a money-maker on its own. If it were, Firefox would have less trouble staying afloat. Anyone who buys Chrome most likely will have plans for it that are no more in the end-user's best interest than Google's.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

It's not about dispelling any ulterior motive. The idea of anti-monopoly enforcement actions is that if the "business ecosystem" is good and healthy, then other companies who don't own Chrome will be able to compete with whoever owns Chrome, giving the consumer choice that people who like the free market say will reduce consumer exploitation. (If you can't tell from my tone, I am dubious, at best, of this logic)

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This seems like a sensible consumer protection to not let the ad company control the biggest web browser. I won't hold my breath, but I'm glad they are trying something.

AWS should also be split from Amazon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why force one company to sell off their browser? Shouldn't MS have to sell Edge and Apple sell Safari?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft having IE/Edge as the default browser has already cost them in the past. I don't think Apple faced anything with Safari.

The problem today with chrome is how prevalent it is and how that influences the main product of the internet (advertising), which happens to be Google's mais product too. Apple can at least make the argument that they make their money with the hardware, not the browser.

Either way, I think all OS should at least give you a list of browsers on first use to choose from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

Either way, I think all OS should at least give you a list of browsers on first use to choose from.

I like this idea if only because it means I don't have the default web browser hanging around only ever having been used to download another web browser.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Google: Sure, we'll sell it to anyone who pays off our Russian Govt fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What Lemmy client do you use?

I am asking because it caught my attention that you didn't upvote your own comment.

Also, funny reference 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The Lemmy web client, same as Reddit, allows you to de-upvote your posts.
It feels weird to upvote your own post anyway and I don't do so unless I am asking for help and want it seen more, urgently.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That is so odd, if you dont think what you are saying is relevant or necessary why say it?

Your conscientiousness will be lost in a sea of others self importance, at least level the playing field and support yourself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

if you dont think what you are saying is relevant or necessary why say it?

If I worried about necessity, I would probably not have a Lemmy account.

level the playing field

I'm not playing dependent upon others, just upon my own ideals. I feel like an upvote needs to mean something. In my case, it means, I need more people to see it, for me.
In most cases, the feeling behind my posts/comments are: If someone sees it, good, have fun.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Your own upvote on your own comment doesn’t mean anything, because every single comment starts with one upvote by default, not zero. All you’re doing is moving your comments below everyone else’s.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Your own upvote on your own comment doesn’t mean anything

Neither do words, or little magnetic particles lain down nicely on a polymer disc, until people decide they mean something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I don’t think anybody decided that an upvote count of 1 means anything.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes I downvote my own comment just to add a little chaos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

I see you being Chaotic-Chaotic over here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It will never happen. But it would be a good thing for the openness of the web. More Firefox, less Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it put Firefox on a pickle? Say Chrome gets bought out of Google's hands, would they still bother to pay half a billion to Firefox to stay as the default search engine? Could Firefox survive being financially independent?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

I'd assume they would be willing to pay even more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Yep.

Tech companies have extreme "Fuck You" money. They have learned a lot from the past two decades of Antitrust acts.

That politician is either going to quickly change their mind with some bribes, or watch their entire life disappear with an army of lawyers or paid off peers shutting them down.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, regulate the web browsers where you can just download librewolf or brave, but don’t do anything about the criminal ISPs and wireless network service providers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I know, right? Why deal with Problem X when Problem Y also exists?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Except you’re not dealing with anything. What do you think happens once Google sells Chrome? They release a new browser a month later, and it will be better than Chrome because nobody has the manpower to develop a web browser at the same speed as Google. This is a waste of time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 37 minutes ago

I'd assume the ruling would also stipulate that they don't develop a new browser for X years. Otherwise they could be right back in a day by forking Chromium.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Sell off? So who will buy

[–] [email protected] 86 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Google will bribe trump and this'll be undone immediately

[–] [email protected] 76 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Google is such a good company, one the best. Everybody says it. I was just talking to John Google the other day, and he tells me, no really he did, he tells me we're going to do amazing things together. Oogles of googles. That's what we'll sell. Everybody will know about google by this time next year. It's true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Username checks out

[–] [email protected] 17 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

You forgot the unrelated rant in the middle about toasters being too dark these days or some shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

And a series of words that sounds kinda like a complex sentence when you listen to it, but actually means nothing whatsoever

And he says to me... a very smart guy, Mark, he's really doing... he's really got to show... when he does things he really does them, you know, like he really does, very impressive, very modern

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

He also didn't say his name three times in 10 seconds. Then sort of fade off and vaguely look off into the distance.

They said to me Donald, Donald, they said Donald, they do amazing things, real bigly things, my father, my father, said to me Donald, they do big things Google land. Really good things.......... Yeah.......... Big things...........................

[–] [email protected] 2 points 58 minutes ago

I love to see professionals in action.

That's craft(wo)manship right there.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

That would be the logical thing according to common sense and probably according to pichai a few weeks ago, but trump just nominated an anti big tech and musk friend to the FCC. musk is behind almost everybody in ai and autonomous cars so he'll definitely push to hamper all competitors.

Sure, we don't know how far would they go or how long will musk keep having white house influence and I personally think breaking up google is now off the table, but I don't think they will get off the hook too easily.

So surely a very big bribe.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

If this happens, I'd be interested in seeing how this effects ChromeOS. I don't use it but my mom does.

Also, if you're confused as to why ChromeOS would be effected, while it's based on Gentoo Linux, ChromeOS uses a modified version of Chrome as it's Desktop Environment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

Yes I would like to know what that means for ChromeOS and Chromebooks. If the new "Chrome" company got ChromeOS also that would be huge. But if that is not a requirement Google could just put another Chromium browser in ChromeOS. They could also continue to sell Chromebooks but based on a ChromiumOS fork.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

Lit. It's a good ask although it's not clear what separation means here. Not going to hold my breath, the big corpos seem to usually win these kind of games.

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