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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/46655413

The Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit arm of the Firefox browser maker Mozilla, has laid off 30% of its employees as the organization says it faces a “relentless onslaught of change.”

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

All of my favorite browsers are forks of Firefox. Lately it's been Zen browser. Watching Firefox smoulder and collapse over the years has been truly painful and makes me fear a chromium future in hell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Same. In the late 2000s or so my father knew ot so much about computers so some family friend set it up and he installed Firefox. I ve been using Firefox my whole life since. I tried switching to ungoogled chromeium, Brave and cromite on mobile but just can't. Like Firefox and its forks are in my muscle memory. It's over. I won't be able to use the internet anymore. Bye guys 👋

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

We are truly living in dark times.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

I really wish Mozilla the best but if it were to fail I sure hope Ladybird will be stable by then.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Mozilla keeps digging Firefox's grave, and seeing how other opensource projects like Gimp struggle to even keep up with their own release schedule and very slow development rate. I fear we will be left with only chrome to use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

I fear we will be left with only chrome to use.

Will, ungoogled-chromium (Windows version) is an thing. So we got that.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago

Another Mozilla

[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did the CEO take a pay cut?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (5 children)

does a bear shit in your mouth?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 21 hours ago

Depends... will it generate shareholder value?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay I'll learn how to make better coffee

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Damn bro, you didn't have to roast yourself that hard

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Come on over, I'll put on a pot of ~~bear shit~~ coffee and see if you disagree

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

God bean counters ruin everything good related to tech

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago

wouldn't it be nice if the profit motive wasn't the only driving force of the economy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

On mobile, search Google for "election" and then try to zoom in on any state.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago

Wait they still had employees?

[–] [email protected] 282 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Regardless, don’t use chrome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I've moved to Vivaldi recently and it's been refreshingly not-suck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

That’s good. Are you happy with the built-in privacy, or do you find extensions are needed?

I’d still argue it’s chromium.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

If this Firefox trend continues, then we won't really have a choice in the matter anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (18 children)

If Mozilla does become defunct, it does raise the question of whether Chrome would be considered a Google monopoly, and therefore subject to antitrust legislation.

I can't imagine any governments would look kindly upon internet access being guarded behind a single company's product.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago

Google should be subject to antitrust legislation regardless.

Their position as a monopoly is what enables this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago

The firefox browser could exist without quite a lot Mozilla does. A large chunk of its cash isn’t spent on the browser.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago

I can’t imagine any governments would look kindly upon internet access being guarded behind a single company’s product.

laughs in 2001

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We'll go back to gopher if we have to, it's time for burning chrome.

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[–] [email protected] 250 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Gee, I can't imagine why they chose to drop this bomb today.

It's like they wanted it to be drowned in other news.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's Mozilla. No one is going to see this anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

I'm seeing it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Why, what else happened today?

Tap for spoiler/s

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 day ago (2 children)

GODDAMMIT MOZILLA. YOU ARE MAKING ADVOCATING FOR BETTER INTERNET HARD

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago

Unfortunately I don't think there's much Mozilla can do other than cut costs with it seeming like the Google funding will be getting severely hampered.

They can't get money from thin air.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 23 hours ago

This is more of a symptom the cause is the monopolization of the internet largely by Google

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Everytime I see comments regarding Mozilla''s financials,I have the same effing question: How does a company like brave or opera maintain their browser ?? AFAIK both don't have the level of community backing that Mozilla does nor do they have any (again AFAIK) agreement with a company like google for default search engine placement

[–] [email protected] 39 points 23 hours ago

They use chromium.

Firefox does not.

The grand majority of software engineering effort goes into the browser development that they never have to work on for the most part.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

those are just rebranded chrome(ium). all browsers except firefox and safari are rebranded chromium or firefox. edit: there are some other projects but none are mature.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Brave and Opera are both forks of Chromium that incorporate upstream changes. Firefox is an entire browser.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Brave just tries to scam their users for money.

Like when they added "donate to the content creator" links on YouTube and such, then didn't actually give the money to the content creators.

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I suspect their financial position has changed. Perhaps Google's being found as a monopoly has made them decide not to help fund Mozilla's efforts as substantially.

Ashley Boyd lead the advocacy team, here's the kind of stuff they were doing:

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-welcomes-ashley-boyd-vp-of-advocacy/

In fall of 2016, Mozilla fought for common-sense copyright reform in the EU, creating public education media that engaged over one million citizens and sending hundreds of rebellious selfies to EU Parliament. Earlier in 2016, Mozilla launched a public education campaign around encryption and emerged as a staunch ally of Apple in the company’s clash with the FBI. Mozilla has also fought for mass surveillance reform, net neutrality and data retention reform.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/05/mozilla-foundation-lays-off-30-staff-drops-advocacy-division/

“The Mozilla Foundation is reorganizing teams to increase agility and impact as we accelerate our work to ensure a more open and equitable technical future for us all. That unfortunately means ending some of the work we have historically pursued and eliminating associated roles to bring more focus going forward,” read the statement shared with TechCrunch.

Reading between the lines, I'd keep an eye on them collecting your data and consider one of the privacy-focused forks.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 day ago

CEO first please. He's not worth it

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago

That'll certainly make it easier to pay the CEO.

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