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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/46655413

The Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit arm of the Firefox browser maker Mozilla, has laid off 30% of its employees as the organization says it faces a “relentless onslaught of change.”

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Everytime I see comments regarding Mozilla''s financials,I have the same effing question: How does a company like brave or opera maintain their browser ?? AFAIK both don't have the level of community backing that Mozilla does nor do they have any (again AFAIK) agreement with a company like google for default search engine placement

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago

They use chromium.

Firefox does not.

The grand majority of software engineering effort goes into the browser development that they never have to work on for the most part.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

those are just rebranded chrome(ium). all browsers except firefox and safari are rebranded chromium or firefox. edit: there are some other projects but none are mature.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apple also maintains their own browser engine, but that's Apple.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Ah, I guess I read over the first bit to where you mentioned the rebrands, which didn't include Safari.

To still add some useful information: all browsers on iOS are rebranded Safari, because Apple only permits their own browser engine.

(The EU ruling may change this, however)

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brave and Opera are both forks of Chromium that incorporate upstream changes. Firefox is an entire browser.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Didn't think that maintaining the engine is what Mozilla spends majority of it's Firefox budget on

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

The grand majority of Mozilla's spending is for engineers.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Brave just tries to scam their users for money.

Like when they added "donate to the content creator" links on YouTube and such, then didn't actually give the money to the content creators.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

BTW, about Opera - the newest events with OpenAI and other stuff and Winamp devs not being prosecuted for GPL violations all lead me to one thought.

Are leaked Presto sources really-really illegal to use?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Alongside what the other guy said, Opera definitely does have search engine deals, idk about brave since they launched their own. But brave has their own private advertising system