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If you’re in the area impacted by Milton, you can find publicly available resources at the National Hurricane Center’s website: National Hurricane Center

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[–] [email protected] 204 points 2 months ago (4 children)

There is nothing more tech-bro libertarian than taking free public data, wrapping it in a slick package, and selling it.

I used to think that TV weather people were obsolete, but now I'm nostalgic for the public service that survived in the old capitalistic ad based broadcast TV era.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, free broadcast tv and radio is still a thing, and they are an integral part of the US's disaster alert system. With the right equipment (read: basic cheap radio available almost everywhere), you can still listen to weather information (both general and severe) directly from the horse's mouth 24/7 for free.

In a disaster situation, these services will still stand because they require less infrastructure per person reached than is required to deliver high-speed internet to the same number of people.

These services still exist, and will continue to, but the knowledge of them has atrophyed from disuse. They won't go away, they've just been replaced in general usage because of the convenience that the internet provides us.

TL;DR: Get you a weather radio, get free weather for the life of the equipment. Even if it's not your daily driver, get one anyways, because you'll be able to hear the most relevant info in the worst situation.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

But muh free market!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In a hypothetical world where everyone has every comfort available and every need met,

in that world at least,

I could say:

“There is some room for wrapping something in a sleek package!“

(Maybe I’d pay a dollar if someone remade those graphs really beautifully)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I only ever check my weather on NWS, but a year or two ago they went from having easily read hourly forecast data to those obnoxious graphs. I have zero clue why they did that.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even AccuWeather is saying they're going too far now.

https://www.masslive.com/news/2024/07/accuweather-rejects-project-2025s-national-weather-service-noaa-plans.html

They realize they need that government data too.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Project 2025 wants to disband NOAA and give its functions to Accuweather instead, directing taxpayer funding to a private company while also locking all weather data behind a paywall, so they get paid twice to provide the same info NOAA currently provides with a single payment (taxpayer funding). The Accuweather founder, Joel Myers, and his brother, Billy Lee Myers (unsuccessfully nominated by Trump to be the head of NOAA), are major Republican donors, but I’m sure that is completely coincidental.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Holy fucking shit, Accuweather?! TIL

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Catch me dodging that site from now on

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Weather.gov had the front page downgraded during the Trump administration.

However, if you take a second and put in your ZIP Code and poke around some, it is really freaking good.

And it’s free.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Throwing it out there, but https://www.nhc.noaa.gov is hands down the best hurricane tracking site. It’s low Bandwidth, quick, lightweight, legit data backed, and generally the source data for most other weather sites.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

nhc.noaa.gov is the best for quick, up to date official info about expected impacts. Also local county and municipality pages are important to check for evacuation orders and routes.

For anyone who wants technical deep dives into the meteorology of tropical storms, I can't recommend www.tropicaltidbits.com enough.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's shitfunny because this is a perfect opportunity for apps like this to play into Capitalism and succeed twentyfold.

Open up the app to everyone for free during the hurricane, remove that after hurricane. So many people will go:

  • "OMG this app is useful, I'm paying"
  • "OMG that company is so kind, I'm paying"
  • "OMG I didn't even know about this but people spread the word, I'm paying!"

So many opportunities for longer-term profits missed by idiocy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

You have way more faith in people's attention span than I

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What data does this app have that isn't freely available somewhere else?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yep. Hurricane info is available from official sources for free.

However, I can’t help but imagine some tiktok of someone finding themselves trapped on a rooftop crying because their preferred app wouldn’t show some critical info.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

For anyone who doesn’t know where here’s NOAA. https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/093335.shtml?cone They’re who does America’s atmospheric and oceanic measurements, everyone selling it gets it from them

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's like my Canadian colleagues complaining that they can't find any info about big weather events on Facebook and I'm like "You realize your taxes pay for info available to all?"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

but do the taxes pay for it in a form they can parse and use (minion memes)?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

noaa.gov. for sat images go to the goes image viewer

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Free coverage from Ryan Hall Y'all on youtube. He's livestreaming for the foreseeable future with no ads.

LightningMaps is my favorite real time weather map site.

NOAA's National Hurricane Center is the gold standard and updates regularly.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Ah, demanding you to pay or die. Isn't capitalism grand?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mike's Weather Page is a hobbyist page that aggregates a ton of info.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

That site is an absolute mess!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Ryan Hall is doing a Livestream on YouTube providing all day coverage of the hurricane. Several cameras up in areas that will receive the worst of it. Several meteorologists on staff, radar info and explanation, storm chasers on the ground. Pretty much all of the information you could need. Link

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

AccuWeather is free and provides up to date hurricane info.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

AccuWeather is a terrible company owned by human scum trying to exclusively privatize taxpayer-funded weather data.

If you care about having your taxpayer-funded weather accessible without going through a private, corporate middleman, you should never use AccuWeather.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

(Just don't rely on its forecasts outside the 15-day range)

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't rely on anything more than 3 days out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

dont rely on any weather forecast outside the 15-day range tbh

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The future of NOAA if trump gets elected

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

The NOAA has no future if Trump gets elected.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

God bless capitalism

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This feels so american lmao

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It's made by "bending spoons operations", an Italian company.

From app's the website:

Copyright © Bending Spoons Operations S.p.A. | Via Nino Bonnet 10, 20154, Milan, Italy | VAT, tax code, and number of registration with the Milan Monza Brianza Lodi Company Register 13368510965 | REA number MI 2718456 | Contributed capital €50.000,00

They also make WeTransfer, MeetUp and Evernote

Edit: they only bought these, they didn't make it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why you’d get any weather information from anyone but Frankie MacDonald, with his very own weather station, is beyond me

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