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This is bullshit. Apply spend 30 minutes doing assignments and when you get text saying congratulations they want to interview you think you get an interview.

This probably one of those fake job postings I heard about. Pisses me off. Haven't had to look for work in over 5 years and now I am stuck applying for shit jobs. There no normall way to find work these days.

Even was told now companies use "AI" to filter out resumes before a human even sees it.

Edit: Reached HR and they explained that it's not a mistake. They really do it this way. Apparently when Autumn Lyons wants to interview me it is fake because it's sent to thousands of people and they have only so many slots.

It suggested that I check the link several times a day until a slot comes available.

Well I am not playing that fucking game. You want to interview me then do so. Fucking assholes.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're probably doing it on purpose to be able to claim "they can't find qualified personnel." That would allow them to file for H1B and hire a person from India at a significant savings.

I'm not sure who to report that to, but USCIS oversees the H1B program.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Got a hold of HR and it's not a mistake it's "due to high volume of applications we have so many slots available. We recommend you check it several times a day until a slot available. It's a fucking scam and not playing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

What that tells me is they have such high employee turnover that their application process is just a disguised pool of warm bodies to pull from as needed. I’d avoid diving in if at all possible.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Take what HR says with a grain of salt.

If they’re gaming H1B, They’re not gonna say “yeah we’re faking it to get cheap indentured immigrants to work for us”.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 3 months ago (1 children)

After working in a really big company for a while and seeing how incredibly degrading the hiring process is nowadays i simply woulnd't want to apply for a job for those companies.

I just signed the contract for a much smaller company and the process was:

  1. Apply online.... via mail and just attaching some PDFs :D
  2. "We are interested in you, we would love to do an interview. Can you come over or do you want to do this Online?"
  3. Meeting them in person, having a nice interview and chat afterwards.
  4. Agreeing to do this and sign the contract.

Thats it. No Booking time slots to getting interviewed bullshit. This is just ridicilous.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Even with big companies I've never seen one where the applicant had to find a schedule for the interview, instead of the recruiter reaching out out and checking availability. This is odd even for bigger corporations, or maybe times have changed (I haven't applied for a new job for a while now).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

They have changed. This is pretty typical shit these days. Usually its a calendly link

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lockheed Martin pulled this shit on me 20 years ago. Applied for a job, did a quick phone screen and they invited me to their campus 5 hours away for an in person interview. When I got there they had a whole gymnasium setup with booths and about 50 people doing interviews and 200 bewildered engineers showing up hoping for a job. They never once mentioned it was going to be factory interviews. Fuck that and similar companies.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

HR, the "department of people", continually working to dehumanize candidates as much as possible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Human Racehorses. You know what they do to racehorses who get injured and can't work anymore?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

0 sympathy. Lockheed and Martin. “Yes hello I would like to help you bomb people since you are paying well”

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This probably one of those fake job postings I heard about.

I would be willing to bet that it is a Ghost Job. I sympathize with that struggle. I'm sure I have applied to a couple of those recently, too.

I found that many ghost jobs stay up for a while, so what I started doing to find leads was utilize search engine operators to find recent postings. Something like: (site:greenhouse.io | site:workday.com) after:2024-07-24 "system admin" That should find "system admin" jobs posted on workday and greenhouse, commonly used as internal job boards, posted in the last couple of days.

You could even add more job boards to the list by using site: between the parenthesis and separated with bars to expand your search. Or you could change the after statement to today to find very fresh jobs to try to find posts less than 24 hours old and be among the first applicants.

That trick (or maybe just my persistence with an overwhelming portion of luck, idk) managed to eventually get me something new, so I'm hopeful it wasn't a fluke and it can help someone else, too.

Best of luck.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Commenting for later if I ever lose my job

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

You applied to work at AT&T.

WTF.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even was told now companies use “AI” to filter out resumes before a human even sees it.

Companies have been doing this for 20+ years. The only thing new about it is that they stuck "AI" on the label.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I have a bachelor of the arts in computer science. Landing that first job was so hard because companies filtered out my resume because they were looking for a bachelor of the sciences. Fuck me I guess for my college mandating I take at least one class a year about how the world works instead of just computer stuff

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

BS generally has more math/algorithm requirements so you understand what your code is actually doing.

If they actually need that math knowledge expecting the BS is perfectly reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

If they’re systematically wasting people’s time like this, it’s probably grounds for a lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I know someone recently hired with at&t and it does not sound like a good gig, so I'd consider it a blessing they showed their colors up front

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Can confirm. Did a contract with them. It's 1000 old school business and engineers who are extremely resistant to change at all. Their agile process was 100% BS that was micromanagement waterfall pretending to be agile. No one should want to work there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking AT&T just provided whatever teleconference system they use

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I guess that's possible

Edit: Actually no, unlikely. The url refers to "hire vue" which seems to be the provider of the interview service

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Consider it a blessing and move on. It may not seem that way now, but it probably is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Already moved on. Withdrew my application and deleted my profile.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Good stuff. Best of luck with the hunt. Hope you find something you like!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

I have a family member who works for AT&T. Run far far away and consider yourself lucky you couldn't get an interview.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

I just got a job at a place that does batch interviews. You go through the process, then they tell you they want to do an interview. You get a text or email with slots available and you and every other applicant fights for one of 50 interview slots available.

It's a competitive job so you have to click the link within 5 minutes or you don't get a slot.

I missed the first one (slots were all full) but I got the second round. Came in with all the other applicants, did the interview, got hired.

It's certainly degrading and dehumanizing to go through this process, but for companies who have tons of applicants, they can get away with it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“Nobody wants to work anymore”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

"Nobody wants to parkour their way through our application obstacle course for (a chance at) a probationary position with shit pay and no benefits that we can yank away at any time because we don't like the color of tie they wore during our mandatory unpaid off-hours team building event."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Yeah, this is crazy, if you already went through other stages, they should find the time for you.

I'm wondering, perhaps we need a site tracking all those companies that post job openings without actually looking for employees. So we don't have to waste our time on them, wanna they might also get some consequences from this practice when they actually need new talent.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

That’s cold.