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[–] [email protected] 154 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Opinion: When you are trying to build a community it is more important to use whatever platform your users can be found on than to be a purist.

[–] [email protected] 119 points 5 months ago (11 children)

but discord is simply less accessible than any other option. I can't even login without identifying 25 bicycles lmao

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Putting everything on discord makes information unsearchable via search engines, which is objectivily not great. This recent habit is contributing to killing the web.

On a more subjective note, I just don't like it. On the top of my head : Confusing interface, wont' shut up about nitro, requires a phone number.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

It's kind of stupid this even has to exist tbh

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Opinion: Not if that community advertises itself to know/care about open source. Using a proprietary, privacy unfriendly service which uses predatory marketing to get people to spend money on bs stuff and arbitrarily paywall functionalities is both anti open source and anti people. Its enabling those companies. One could maybe argue for a strict bridge which only server to connect those who resist foss platforms.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"I've built an off-grid support group. Join us on Facebook."

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Counterpoint: If said community is about a certain type of software, decisions over the type of platform matter more than popularity within teenagers. Coherence is important.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, i can't be there because the only provider doesn't accept my (mandatory) phone number.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

trying to build a community

I honestly think that's the big part there. You can build a great app but it doesn't matter if no one is using it and you don't get feed back or it's not shared around.

So, here we are trying to use the newest virtual 3rd space to create a community so that there is people will feel engaged in the product and share it around to add more.

But that's also an issue with discord. It wants to be a social space more than a useful space and it usually gets entirely dominated by a few users with others less inclined to add in. It's also accessible but not easy necessarily to stumble into if you are outside of the community trying to look into it more.

It just does the wrong job, slower and less efficient than old school forums or wikis, but it's the tools we have to use in this less efficient connected Internet of the now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

if you're trying to build a chatroom then any chat software goes but if you're trying to build a community you should probably use something searchable and indexed, like real community software

also i find it laughable that users must already be on such platform, by your logic all communities should be mailing lists

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Set up a Matrix space, bridge the channels to Discord. Everyone wins.

(But don't use IM outside of its useful scope regardless)

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 months ago (6 children)

The logo and "join our Discord" text are more than half cut off for me. Is that the original cropping, or is it a client (Jerboa) issue?

[–] [email protected] 105 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 90 points 5 months ago (10 children)

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand cropped memes. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of memetics and linguistics most of the jokes will go over a typical reader's head. There's also the high contrast color pallette, which is deftly woven into the message. Lemmy users understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike cropped memes truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in longing for the bottom half of the text, "Join our Discord". I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as the meme's genius wit unfolds itself on their smartphone screens. What fools..

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a cropped tattoo? Can we see it?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

The fact that this is the top comment sends a funny message about the Lemmy community as a whole.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 5 months ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Project wiki >>>>>>>>...>>>>> discord >> communication via carrier pigeons

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I think you're being a little unfair, communication via carrier pigeons is a valid solution as it outpaces IPv4/IPv6 carriers to this day

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (11 children)

while yes, there are many BETTER alternatives already disponible

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

People did improve society, they made Matrix and XMPP.

The seatbelts already exist, you just need to use them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is the worst use of this meme I have ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Matrix really isn't that hard.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Congratulations. You have successfully repeated the joke.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair: the cropping makes it hard to spot.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I believe that was intended. It's a way to "hide" the punchline on an image so it's not obvious at the first glimpse

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

Where matrix or/and xmpp

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

I said "future" hehe

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

I see this point a lot and I don't get it at all. You can do something awesome, free and open-source but use tools that aren't, especially when we're talking about community building. Sure, you can do your outreach exclusively on Mastodon or Farcaster, but the most eyes just happen to be on closed platforms, so it'd just be self-sabotage. Doing the only thing that makes sense doesn't make you a hypocrite.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Enough to necessitate this meme.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Virtually all of new projects created after certain years. Younger devs prefer setting up a discord server first than setting up a documentation site/wiki. I feel old.

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