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[–] [email protected] 505 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (106 children)

EDIT: I should've read the article, but I'm taking the L and leaving this up with a strikethrough. The phrasing "after" in the headline definitely creates the wrong impression here. As for what this says about people, I guess we'll have to see if the other ten whistleblowers still testify.

And if you think it's too much to assume Boeing killed these two people, that's the wrong question. It matters more whether as a fellow whistleblower it's reasonable to worry about whether Boeing killed them, and I think it is.

Also Boeing definitely killed the first guy at least. "If I die, it's not suicide." - man who "committed suicide". WTAF.

~~If you ever hear anyone talking about how humans suck and we're all terrible and will definitely destroy ourselves, just think about the fact that killing whistleblowers was quickly followed by more whistleblowers. Not just lone heros, but ten fucking people said, "hey, fuck you, are you really gonna kill me too?" knowing that the answer could well be "yes".~~

[–] [email protected] 81 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Funny, just yesterday probably I was arguing with someone in another thread that was saying the people here don't actually think Boeing had these whistleblowers killed, it was just making "implications and jokes."

And here, very clearly, with a massive number of upvotes we have someone claiming that Boeing had them killed and that resulted in brave souls coming out afterward. lol

However, this also exposes another huge complaint I have with your typical lemmy-er (lemming? lemmite? what do you call a user of lemmy?): Almost no one reads the fucking article.

This isn't about new whistleblowers coming out, but their lawyer claiming he is afraid that current whistle blowers will be "scared away."

But, of course, what I've learned on reddit and even more so on lemmy is that the facts don't matter, only the narrative.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Almost no one reads the fucking article.

You are describing the human species. Through its entire history.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yes but our current society vests power in the corporation doing the killing. It's a problem as old as civilization, but one we still haven't solved. The problem is that these institutions and the technology they wield has never been greater.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

We need an impartial lawnmower. Something external to the species that comes in and cuts the biggest ones in half. And it needs to be incorruptible and powerful enough to do this.

Damn, I think I just invented god again.

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[–] [email protected] 161 points 6 months ago (11 children)

One death is coincidental, two is suspicious, any more and it’s gonna become plainly obvious, and now there’s 10. That’s just delicious. They can’t silence them all.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 6 months ago (7 children)

1 dead whistleblower is a tragedy. 10 dead whistleblowers are a statistic.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

So in other words, very plausible deniability.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/heart-attack-gun

We had that tech in 1968. I'm pretty sure it would be a matter of a phone call and some change from the couch cushions for Boeing to create the recent outcome.

Does this mean they did it? No.

Does it warrant the reaction folks are having about it? Absolutely yes. (Edit - In light of their current troubles and the fate of the prior whistleblower.)

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[–] [email protected] 155 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Gotta love my fellow millennials - battered old souls that only the offer of getting murdered gets us properly motivated.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Most of us see that as a perk. “Wait, I can die right now, painlessly? Like totally painless? Where do I sign up?”

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean, if the choice is instant, painless death or decade after decade of your parents asking why you don't own a house, I guess death is fine?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

Dark but that sentiment aint coming out of now where.

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The hitperson is the only competent employee left at Boeing.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That guy is booked through year end now.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Overbooked. This is the airline industry we're talking about.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

You could just say ‘assassin’. “Hitperson” makes it sound like some HR-designated position, awkwardly titled in some neutral, milquetoast way as not to offend anyone.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 112 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Article author seems to have completely fabricated the "10 more". There are no quotes from anyone even hinting at more whistleblowers existing, let alone ten more.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (1 children)

hindustantimes.com

Is not a source I'm familiar with. But everyone wants to believe it, so upvotes it is.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Its one of the largest Indian Newspapers

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (7 children)

With the way Modi is running India right now, that's not exactly a glowing recommendation.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Wow, ten more suicidal people that really want to off themselves and also suddenly all started talking about Boeing, all at the same time. They'll also all off themselves in the coming weeks.

What are the chances of that happening?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Boeing deliberately only hires people with suicidal tendencies. It's a non-negotiable character trait.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Hold on! A SECOND whistleblower died?!

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (2 children)

MRSA infection following hospital admittance for Pneumonia. That shit is serious and way more prevalent than people think, it's just that it usually kills people who are already terminally ill.

Unlikely to be an assassination. But not impossible. Either way, looks very bad.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 85 points 6 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (9 children)

For real. If ever there were a time to hop on an Amtrak, I think this would be a good one.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They can't possibly kill them all right?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Boeing: "Two down, ten to go!"

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"what are they going to do, kill all of us?" - dead whistleblower

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Goddamn when are investigators gonna hear these whistles?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (6 children)

“the sudden announcement of Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun's resignation by the end of 2024 was interpreted as a response to the company's persistent safety issues.”

I hope Boeing has serious bonus claw-backs in their contracts, because this idiot’s “cost-savings” have actually cost Boeing a fortune, and destroyed their reputation. The entire board should go.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (2 children)

whistleblower hunting season for boeing

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I remember thinking movies just had absurd sensationalized plot lines and that our societies were past that shit. Then I saw former soviets killed by alpha particle emitting pills, whistleblowers dying, and now I'm thinking the truth is stranger than fiction.

Hang in there Edward Snowden, it's amazing that fucker threaded the needle and still lives.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (9 children)

It'll be such a surprise when it turns out all 10 have been suicidal for years and/or extremely susceptible to infection.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If we had a functioning government they'd already be bankrupt or in the hands of a legit oversight authority, rather than allowed to continue to run a blatantly corrupt and dangerous enterprise.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If you see something, say something... and get shot.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago

at this point, Boeing's gonna need a defense contractor's worth of weapons to deal with all of these whistleblowers... oh wait.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

"Cut off one head and FIVE more will take its place."

Boeing is about to engage in the most desperate game of whack-a-mole ever.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

They are just looking to open some doors, mid flight.

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