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[–] [email protected] 149 points 7 months ago (13 children)

And it's also red. I hate red turning indicators, they should be amber.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 7 months ago (5 children)

They are required to be in other countries. At some point we decided red was ok and there's so many problems with that!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

These are aftermarket taillights.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I'm pretty sure the UK ones are animated as well in the direction of travel which makes it even clearer.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

yeah, I had to get used with the lack of regulations here and there when I moved to the US

land of the free corporations

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I think, if you put them together, it's supposed to be a Union Jack?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago

Hence the form in "form over function"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Yes, Mini uses that pattern a lot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Yup. That's right.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Leave it to brits to install right indicator on the left side

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Don't blame us, Mini has been owned by BMW for decades.

Good thing we stopped them in WW2. That flag in the indicator would have been even more confusing.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I don't get it... What's wrong with it?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The turn signal to turn left looks like an arrow pointing to the right.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The bigger issue is that the US still alows Blinkers to be the same color as break lights. Just weird to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Actually, Us law/regulations require them to be amber or yellow.

But like with super-bright headlamps; manufacturers decided to ignore it because USDoT is pretty useless in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

That's not correct. FMVSS 108, Table I-a, specifically allows rear turn signals to be amber or red. Front turn signals must be amber only.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I guess... It's still a big blinking light on either side of the car I hardly think it's going to confuse anyone

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Have you seen the idiots out on the road these days?

However, as far as turn signals go, this is one of the less egregious designs. Car manufacturers are given too much leeway in what is allowed for such systems, like putting them between headlights or making them use the same circuits as the brake lights instead of a dedicated light.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I could see it being an issue for some less-common type of indicator, but everyone who drives knows what a blinker looks like. Nobody would mistake it for anything other than the right hand turn signal.

Hell, I wouldn't even notice the shape of the light; all you need to notice while driving is the presence of a flashing light on the right side of the vehicle - if you're looking intently enough to notice the shape of the light, you're not paying enough attention to everything else on the road.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (9 children)

In the dark, with the other side obscured (or just broken), you don’t want the blinker to actively prompt you to come to a wrong conclusion.

It’s better to see a blinking light and think “I don’t see enough, gotta slow down” than see a blinking arrow and potentially not even realize it’s a turn signal.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Multiple wrong. The brake light double as a turn signal, the signal colour itself being red, and the arrow pointing at different direction.

In a saner world, signal and brake light will always be separated and must be the colour of amber.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But that's just a US issue, right? Most other countries already require amber signal lights.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So you mean Canada has the same issue?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

I'm turning

-> <-

that way

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's the right turning light... In the shape of an arrow pointing left

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How do we know this isn't just someone on the brake where one bulb has blown?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a video in case you are just looking at the still picture.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yup you're right I didn't notice it's a GIF

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Means how the top center brake light is also lit up, I think you're right.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (13 children)

I think you two are too European to understand this.

The US and Canada allows blinking a brake light to act as a turn signal. It's absolutely stupid, I know.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (9 children)

I just like to tell the Americans that this is your fault. You have lacks traffic laws that allow this kind of thing. This isn't be legal in the UK.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Lax* but yes they also lack them too

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is it not valid to hang the Union Jack vertically, like a pennant? Mini could have just designed each light to be a complete flag, made the same reference, and not have everyone point and laugh at them.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why would you ever click a link from hackers.town tho

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My thinking:

Hackers != crackers

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to go to crackers.town either... That's a bad vibe

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Sounds alright to me... Might have to go to https://cheese.town afterwards, though.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's supposed to represent the union jack. I understand how it could be frustrating though.

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