Wild that the answer to young people being exposed to literal genocide and having an opinion about it, isn't to try and do something about the genocide, but to call it indoctrination and try to ban it.
Make it make sense.
this post was submitted on 08 Mar 2024
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They ban it because TikTok won't do western propaganda exclusively. You can't even say in the media that Israel is wrong, even if you use 100% documented sources.
Well, if you inherit a sum of money and just eat through it, it only lasts for so long.
If you inherit institutions and just expect them to be there, they only last for so long.
Life is violent and there's no end of history.
I genuinely dislike TikTok (might be just old-man-shaking-his-fists-at-the-sky syndrome), but a complete ban on an app like that seems uninformed and quite the overreach. I think banning it on government devices is a good move, and I also think having everyone make informed decisions on who they give their personal information to is paramount (in this case, tin foil hat or no, you’re likely giving it to the CCP), but this seems like a clear case of a bunch of old timers making a pretty uninformed decision based on knee-jerk reactions to public opinion.
I kind of agree.
There should be ways to sign up without the huge over reach of data. Education is also a must.
But then after that the Internet should be free, it shouldn't be controlled by big daddy government just because someone says something they don't like.
This old man is now into TikTok. It's much better than when it was music.ly
Heaven forbid the kids should be against the outright mass murder of unarmed men, women, and (mostly) children, the targeted killing of journalists, doctors, and destruction of all hospitals, the blocking of aid, forced starvation, and targeted killing of people in designated “safe zones”.
Where has their sense of bloodthirsty genocide and outright cruelty gone?
Losing the ability to Censor pro Palestinian content on social media has severely changed the views of our younger Generation.
This is what was on TikTok while Twitter was full with #istandwithisrael: https://www.tiktok.com/@rathbonemakesmusic/video/7289906736847129902
Its clear that this is about the control of "freedom of speech". Ironic that we are now censoring the CCP
Social media are inherently about censorship being a coherent policy and not a personal choice of every single webmaster.
TikTok is something "good" only in this particular case (Palestine).
That's true but it is a sign that the speech we believe is so free is actually not free whatsoever.
When a platform doesn't censor, or censors different things than we want them to censor, they get banned.
Trump tried to ban Tiktok because it was Chinese owned and it got rejected. But now it's getting banned, why?
Is it actually because it is showing bad things Israel has done or has something else happened? I'm genuinely out of the loop and confused.
- it's not owned and controlled by Americans. This makes American billionaires unhappy, and the liked of Zuckerberg would be very happy for the removal of comepetiton.
- America has a sinophobia problem, I know a lot of Americans here don't see it, and get mad if you bring it up, but from the outside looking in, it's very obvious.
- Policy makers in America seem scared of young people being politically motivated, and a lot of that is happening via tiktok. It stopped the red wave, it's now impacting democratic polling, they're losing control.
These points are all absolutely correct, and generally follow a trend of protectionism sweeping across the globe, but there’s also a genuine concern about how Tiktok shapes public POV based on CCP decisions(for example, suppressing content about the excessive Covid lockdown, the Uyghur and Tibetan genocide, and suppression of Hui Muslims, Hong Kong and other minorities in China).
And now it will only be US state department approved propaganda from now on. Losing TikTok isn’t going to be a win I think many people think it will be. It could be, but the policies that will enable it are made with bad intentions in mind so it won’t be.
That content doesn't seem suppressed, I've seen most of those things on TikTok. Some people were actively trying to see if that was true, and while it's hard to know if it's being penalised by the algorithm or not, it seemed fine.
If anything I report stuff all the time and it's just like Facebook and other social media, the reports basically go to /dev/null. Like, legitimate banworthy content like Elon Musk crypto scams and porn, both examples of things to report when you go to the reporting page.
Occupy Wall Street and Opposition to the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) genuinely scared the shit out of them.
I had so much hope for the Internet at that time. But since then it's turned to horseshit.
that 2nd point... I think it really depends on where you live in America. the west coast states are heavily asian influenced - Chinese expats or people of Chinese descent are a significant population percentage.
And thr sinophobia is sadly just as strong there, maybe worse. Stop Asian hate is a campaign for a reason.
eh... its mostly african americans vs asians in my neck of the woods.
This has big "oh no no, there's no racism in my community, I would know" vibes.
plenty of racism, as I stated previously.
They should have banned it years ago when the thought of data security came into question. Tik Tok is brain poison, more than regular internet dosage. It's cocomelon for adolescents.
I have never used TikTok and I never will but I still don't think it's the government's job to decide which apps people are allowed to use and which ones not.
As if we were so much more refined back when we were giving each other links to the goatse pic and writing Livejournals.
Americans will silence anyone talking about Israeli war crimes.
Thank God the US doesn't have any social media/propaganda distribution sites of their own to worry about, I can't imagine there being more than just the Chinese owned one to deal with.
Yeah, but money can't control CCP like it controls the narrative here. That's not acceptable... /s