The fact that the headline says "Chinese Carmaker" and not "BYD" says a lot about their international market share.
this post was submitted on 27 Dec 2023
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To be honest, I think it more tells you the article was written by an American for an American audience.
Poorly. Just add the name after Chinese Car maker.
Yes, that would be great, it's a bit editorializing, but making it less click bait, should absolutely be acceptable.
I’m not sure if it’s that or clickbait to get you to find out who it is. That kinda crap has been rampant lately.
Could be both though honestly. Either way, I’m sick of it.
I agree with that, I guess it could have been added after the original headline, maybe putting it in parenthesis.
Also says a lot that despite that they still make more. Having more global sales in effectively one country is more impressive if anything.
The headline also says overtakes, while it says "poised to be" in the text.
It says a lot about that "journalist" knowledge of the topic
oh look, someone doing ev that can actually make vehicles, and theyve eclipsed tesla... no wayy..
no one could have predicted this except, ya know, everyone.
And yet so many people are stuck in the pyramid scheme that is Tesla's stock.
And those who have ETFs or index funds that track the S&P 500 also have Tesla stock as a hot trash albatross to deal with.
You leave the majestic albatross out of this.
Everyone hates on Tesla for obvious CEO reasons , but Tesla still has great cars. I test drove every electric car manufacturer and model available in central Florida throughout 2021/2022. The model y is by far the best in nearly every aspect. Nothing comes close.
My model y had one panel issue. They gave me a loaner car, it was fixed in 2 days. I haven't had any issues since. I drove it from Orlando, Florida to Toronto,CA and back without issue. It calculates where and how long to charge to continue your trip.
Again, everyone gives it shit but the "self-driving" is 10/10 on the highway ( 7/10 on local roads). It's not fancy lane assist and you'd have to be literally sleeping at the wheel to crash while it's engaged. It made driving there and back a breeze.
Best car I've driven so far. Hands down.
The model Y comfort and quality is garbage compared to any Audi, BMW, or ESPECIALLY Porsche. You are on crack if you think Tesla quality is above the Germans. It's a shitty muscle car with a good drivetrain.
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Data and consumer reporting consistently rank Tesla as one of, and frequently THE, most unreliable car company by the numbers as far as quality control. It has nothing to do with Musk hate. The company is infamous for ex-managers confessing that they were told to ship them with the defects because most people didn't bother to have them fixed.
You "only" had a panel issue that required multiday service. That's not supposed to happen with brand new cars.
I'm glad you enjoy the car and driving it though, I bet they are great when they're at their best. Apparently, the China-based ones are fine very well. But it's okay to criticize things that should be criticized.
Out of curiosity, how do you use the self-driving? Do you pay attention to the road with your hands on the wheel in case it fails or do you just, I don't know, look at the landscape? If you pay attention to the road what's the benefit over cruise control?
On the highway, I haven't had it fail or do anything weird in over a year. I watch the road, but keep my hands off. Daily commute, especially when there's traffic, is much less of a mental burden. I'm much more at ease to check my phone or look up a song. Local roads, I keep my hand a 3' o'clock while on the armrest. Not as liberal with diverting my eyes. Letting it do all the work makes driving better, it's definitely more relaxing.
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Yes. It’s very fashionable to hate Elon Musk, but unfashionable to acknowledge that someone you hate can do good stuff.
Man, Tesla is known for their very poor quality these days as well.
I recall 6-7 years ago I had a family member complain about their tesla breaking down. Today, we know this is pretty standard for all of them. We've also all seen how trashy the build quality is outside the electronics as well.
So... Even if these are trashy quality, are they really much worse than Tesla? I look forward to hearing more. I hope this shames Western companies into catching up, the fucking idiots.
I don't wanna be that guy, but BYD are not only garbage tofu cars, they are also HEAVILY subsidized by the CCP in an effort to dump on the competition.
You can be that guy all you want, those garbage tofu cars are still dominating the market.
I know they are dominating the market. But I'm explaining why they are. It's NOT because they make superior cars Each car is sold at a loss with the funding/backing of the China government with the sole purpose to dump(kill domestic competition).
Amazon prime sorta did this on a micro scale. Dump their pricing to kill Barnes and Noble and after they go out of business, they open and replace them with their own stores. But instead of Amazon funding the dump, it's the god damn CCP and our entire auto industry.
Dominating which market though? China is heavily subsidizing these cars like they do with a lot of new tech when they want to undercut non-Chinese companies. I guarantee if any other manufacturer had similar subsidies, the situation would be different.
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Predicted for this quarter. Musk has been scoffing the idea, whilst watching them catch him and simultaneously shooting himself in the foot with his own plans.
Meh, the US will slap enough tariffs on these things to make their own Autoindustry competitive again.
So will the EU.
But china has a gigantic middle-class that can afford these things, so I hope they all switch to EV en masse.. it's a win for the planet!
Tariff slapping had been tried by Trump. Very poor outcomes. There will be a more moderated approach, but we will need to see how that pans out
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I am shocked that a Chinese company with access to materials is selling heavily subsided EVs. Shocked! Meanwhile in the US, nobody can make them in quantity and when they do Americans don't want them. Shocked!
None of you would purchase this car to any Toyota quality wise as well. These things are sub Mitsubishi quality.
But it wouldn't hurt if US could massively subsidize it's own cheap EV options
Where can I get one?
BYD is available in most of the world, the story linked beneath is about a newer model ATTO, but Dolphin is probably even more popular:
https://cleantechnica.com/2023/11/27/byd-atto-3-now-available-in-50-countries-neta-auto-enters-central-south-america/
This is an overview of their global presence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Auto#Global_expansion
And still their shares are just a fraction of Tesla's share price.
Company is beholden to the Chinese government, apparently that is worse than beholden to a manchid and a group of ultrarich shareholders.
Rather ironically, BYD is probably closer to the "value investing" (realistic) value than most hyper-inflated western stocks, which completely decoupled from reality a long time ago...
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