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All I wanted was a simple search. (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This is ridiculous. It's taken me a long time to switch to DuckDuckGo because when I get comfortable with something, it's really difficult for me to switch, but if they're going to totally change it (even if it appears to only be for certain search terms now), this is the last straw.

To make it worse, this is a re-search. The first time I searched the term, it asked me if I wanted an AI definition at the top of the page.

No, I want a fucking Wikipedia link. I realize it's on the page, but come on.

This is the same search on DuckDuckGo:

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly do not see what you're upset about, both search engines look like they did well here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hate all the unnecessary clutter. It's needless. It wasn't that way once.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I hate all the unnecessary clutter.

FYI, I use an adblocker to strategically remove annoying elements of a page (most will have a "click to remove" feature). You can probably do the same in whatever search you use, but I find it particularly useful on sites like Amazon or news sites.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Same. That's why I run my own with Searx-NG. It sends your queries out to several (DDG, Google, Bing, and more) and aggregates the results to you. No extra crap, no bs, just what you searched for.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats just how it is. You hate unnecessary clutter. So use duckduckgo. And google users may not want to open wikipedia they might simply want the single sentence defenition shown.

Also there is nothing infuriating about this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

LOL, please subscribe to /c/ obscure and specific pet peeves that an odd human has confused with universal annoyances @ wtf.lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

No, that looks effective to me. If you had to scroll through two pages of 20 minute videos of in-depth reflection on eternal September, I might be with you.

If you just wanted to see Wikipedia, go there and type it instead of Google.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Although I think duckduckgo did a better job, I still don't understand what is infuriating about this one. Google Search just wants to priorize showing you an excerpt from what you are looking for in case you are looking for a definition.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

What infuriates me is how ridiculously and needlessly cluttered it is.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These results seem pretty much the same to me?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

It's the clutter I hate.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

if you want to go straight to wikipedia just go "!w eternal september"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't look like AI generated at all. They quoted Wiktionary to give the definition right at the top. Helpful

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I didn't say it was AI generated, I said they asked if I wanted an AI definition.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I want a fucking Wikipedia link.

Add "Wikipedia" to your search term, then.

It's worth noting that Wikipedia has recently gotten down-ranked in Google's search results. It's rare to be the first result anymore, so just add that to your search terms.

Or, alternatively, just go to Wikipedia and search directly on there. Remove the middleman if you already know what your final destination is going to be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because Google doesn't want to to leave Google. Putting Wikipedia at the top encouraged people to click away

So Google is now trying to deincentivize using the service they're providing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

it's literally a giant link on the right-side knowledge panel. Plus the purpose of a search engine is for you to go to other sites, why wouldn't it encourage people to click away if they don't have it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't even see how this is "cluttered". Do the two extra images really make that much of a difference to you? Plus isn't Wikipedia always a link in the right side's knowledge panel?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If it were the other way around, the narrative would be that google wastes space...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God forbid I Google for information about anything that may be a product for sale, because all I'll get is shopping links. It's super annoying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Try searching something like "best longboards," and you'll get lost in an ocean of potential deathtraps from Amazon Affiliate blogs. I wish there was an extension to filter out all Amazon Affiliate links from any page. They're an absolute plague

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Startpage gives better results than DDG and without clutter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stopped using them when they started asking for a fucking captcha every few searches for VPN users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use mullvad all the time, I see the captcha only a few times a week, if at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe they toned it down a bit, but they've already lost me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There is a bit of clutter with the "related searches." I always find that super unhelpful, and I wish there were a setting to disable it.

It's still superior to both examples posted by OP, though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Startpage

Inetol's SearXNG

I'm not sure if this helps, but these are the two search engines I use most often.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for this! SearXNG is great, and took just a few minutes to spin up the Docker container.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like whatever Bing has going on TBH

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This seems to be one of the rare times these days that google actually does a pretty good job getting you the result you seek for without clutter and ads.

Also, use bangs to search on a specific site. If I want to search for an article on Wikipedia, I just type in "w ". d for DuckDuckGo, g for Google, b for Bing etc. I default to Brave primarily and DuckDuckGo secondarily.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

FYI Duckduckgo has a lite version. Bare bones. Just search results. lite.duckduckgo.com

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Qwant's lite version is better imo. Just as fast but much more functional

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wasn't aware Qwant had a lite version. Cool!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Blank white background. Eww.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nice. Thanks!