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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (6 children)

US companies != US federal government

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

US federal gov already got their hand in companies ass.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At first I thought you were being serious, but I think this is a joke? That Americans don't care how many companies spy on them as long as it's not the government?

Which, is laughable because of course the government has contacts at everyone one of these companies and they'd gladly hand over your data then go to court to protect it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No, you're misunderstanding. The Chinese government has significantly more influence and power over Chinese companies than the US federal government has over US companies. People are acting like both are the same, but they are not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

It should be a known fact at this point that US companies share all the data the goverment wants, i don't think the greater influence matters in this case.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This is sort of true, though it’s hard to make a clear distinction between US capitalists and the US government when the capitalists control the government, and have since the 1776 bourgeois revolution.

China is a proletarian state, where the capitalist class is not in control: China's housing minister says real estate developers must go bankrupt if necessary

Whereas the US is a bourgeois state, where the capitalist class is in control.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah okay. Your far-left talking points aren't convincing me and are definitely making your point harder to parse.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

yeah what was that? I guess thats lemmy.ml for ya

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

The original devs of Lemmy use Lenin and Che Guevara as their avatar pics. No one should be surprised that their primary instance is full of tankies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Ever heard about CLOUD act?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Chinese companies != Chin...wait.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're also misunderstanding. I won't deny that US companies seek profit wherever they can, even from unethical sources. I also don't doubt their involvement with law enforcement and intelligence agencies. But a company seeking profit through a partnership with the United States federal government is not the same as the totalitarian Chinese government requiring oversight of Chinese companies.

It might not seem like a big difference to you, but it's an important one to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

If you find it upsetting that the Chinese state imposes its will on the Chinese capitalist class, then you must really like capitalism, where the capitalist class imposes its will on the state.