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[–] [email protected] 274 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Tell me again how musk-ovi isn’t a putin stooge

[–] [email protected] 66 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

He doesn't want Xitter to get banned in Russia and there are no consequences for arbitrarily banning people. Pretty obviously just business.

Wish people would stop using that site.

Or someone would nationalize it.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If he's being a putin stooge because it's good for his business, he's still being a putin stooge.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

(pst that's just capitalism)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'd prefer for it to crash and burn, not nationalize it and bail him out of his bad investment.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're right, we should nationalize all of his assets.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Thats more like it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Who said anything about compensating him?

Or if we do, compensate him at it's actual value not the absurd price he paid for it

.... On second thought, nevermind, seize it outright, he doesn't deserve a damned thing for it

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

"Just business"

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that elon "if you advertisers don't like my performative bootlicking bullshit then go fuck yourself" musk is doing something for the good of a business and NOT because of his vindictive, forever 13 year-old, ultra-divorced, fermented hair plug influenced personal political positions?

You're 1000% confusing this coincidentally being a move that might not get him banned in Russia, with that being the core motivation. There's a disconnect in your comment, last two statements are valid, first is cookoo bananas.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He doesn’t want Xitter to get banned in Russia

Well, It has been blocked for 2 years now. How Do You Like This, Elon Musk?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Honestly nationalizing it would be a bad idea. Once it's government owned, then the 1st amendment would actually apply and banning people, including the more openly Nazi accounts than you can imagine, would probably be illegal. It would be overrun with even more heinous filth than it houses now.

It really is best for everyone that Twitter dies, and good news! Under Musk's incredible zero-win leadership, it looks pretty inevitable!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, this. Practically speaking the only country that could nationalize Twitter is the US. It's already a pain in the ass doing moderation without getting the US Constitution in there. It wouldn't just be the 1st amendment, you might also get lawsuits based on other constitutional protections. I 100% guarantee, the US government does not want to get involved.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Openly Nazi accounts already avoid getting banned so that doesn't really change anything.

Though you're right, we need to pack the Court first and undo right-wing jurisprudence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Why stop with Xitter? I personally feel like there should be a national equivalent to the corporate search engines, job boards, etc. National alternatives to everything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or someone would nationalize it.

Oh, the anti-vax broflakes and maga cult will vacate that thing in droves. If the right country 'owns' it - thinking Jacinda Ardern's government if we had a time machine, or just the UN now - then advertisers may come back. Or it may just exist as a cost-free platform for cat pics and tsunami/twister alerts.

Wait. Isn't that what we want? No halfwit conspiracy fucknuts, and a still-usable platform? Where do the bots using it for C&C fit into this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Public spaces should be government owned. Each country could have its own public servers with a guaranteed spot for every citizen. People can cross post.

If you want anonymity you can have private servers too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So what you’re saying is Lemmy needs lobbyists!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Honestly just ActivityPub. And being backed by the W3C id assume there already are discussions in countries where corruption is less prevalent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

He doesn't want Xitter to get banned in Russia

Too bad it already is for last 3 years

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Putin would never ban X in Russia, are you crazy?

“Hmm yes, banning my best propaganda tool. This is the move.” - Not Putin

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Because Musk curates the platform to Russia's standards. If Xitter didn't do stuff like suspening Navalny's wife, Russia might decide to go to a Chinese platform or try to develop their own.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Banning Starlink from Ukraine but not Russia... Banning Putin's adversaries... Hmmmmmmm